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View Poll Results: Who will win Tuesday Night's Debate?
Bernie Sanders 27 61.36%
Ted Cruz 17 38.64%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-04-2017, 08:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Who would want Cruz' version? The Rich.
Cruz and bernie are in about the same boat re wealth.


Bernie owns expensive homes in DC and VT and his wealth appears to be based on specualtion as bernie keeps his finances close to the vest. Wife a college president, college presidents earn in the 3 to 400 k range.


So if 'rich' means enemy of the middle class you will never ever have a legislator to champion your cause.

 
Old 02-04-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Houston
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If it was a formal debate Cruz would mop up.
 
Old 02-04-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Curious to see who will come out as the popular position here. This is Cruz's time to really sell his idea for how America should function in terms of healthcare.

Who do you think will come out wiith the win?

https://gwtoday.gwu.edu/senators-ber...health-care-gw

It will be televised on CNN from 9-10:30pm
Can't wait to watch! Also, Cruz will win.
 
Old 02-04-2017, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Can't wait to watch! Also, Cruz will win.
I doubt the Canadian will win. Too many people have been socked with $$$ medical bills to still believe in private for-profit healthcare
 
Old 02-04-2017, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I doubt the Canadian will win. Too many people have been socked with $$$ medical bills to still believe in private for-profit healthcare
Even Medicare for all utilizes private for-profit healthcare.
 
Old 02-04-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Even Medicare for all utilizes private for-profit healthcare.
Not to the extent that the non-medicaid/Medicare market is now. Anyways, I support a NHS-style system, where the doctors are government employees
 
Old 02-04-2017, 09:04 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders.

Republicans sound like fools when they talk about healthcare. I think they're the only major political party in the Western world that think that way.
 
Old 02-04-2017, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Who would want Cruz' version? The Rich.
Rich people don't like the rest of us to have good things. It would make them feel less-rich, which is what they value most in life. Too bad it's only carried by a cable-channel, where it can be viewed only by the slightly richer.
 
Old 02-04-2017, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Rich people don't like the rest of us to have good things. It would make them feel less-rich, which is what they value most in life. Too bad it's only carried by a cable-channel, where it can be viewed only by the slightly richer.
This is the concept of the positional good. A positional good is zero sum, therefore to have it means someone else can't have it. Take a mansion in a good neighborhood (preferably with beach access) or a Bentley Continental.
 
Old 02-04-2017, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Debunked. "However, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has found that administrative costs under the public Medicare plan are less than 2 percent of expenditures, compared with approximately 11 percent of spending by private plans under Medicare Advantage. This is a near perfect “apples to apples” comparison of administrative costs, because the public Medicare plan and Medicare Advantage plans are operating under similar rules and treating the same population."
I'm talking about costs per enrollee. Stating the administrative costs as a percentage of total costs is misleading at best.
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