L.A., Orange counties are home to 1 million immigrants who are in the country illegally, analysis show (salaries, drug)

[floridanative10]

Originally Posted by okcthunder1945

Sanctuary cities represent the majority of economic activity, don't bite the hand the feeds. Trump country is puny economically.

NYC metro - $1.7 trilllion
LA metro - $1.04 trillion
SF-SJ - $711 billion
Chicago - $618 billion
Boston - $531 billion
Houston - $525
DFW- $508

Remind me when Trump country can produce those numbers.... That's just the top 6 metros.

Where are you getting your numbers? link?

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by okcthunder1945

Yep. And lets see what happens. Texas relies on the cities for funding... where do you think that sales and property taxes come from..... Trump country? Puh-lease.

They are stonewalling right now but they'll come around .

Cities like Austin can't just do whatever they want and not follow the law .
They aren't their own country .

[okcthunder1945]

Originally Posted by floridanative10

Where are you getting your numbers? link?

LMGTFY

[okcthunder1945]

Originally Posted by jm1982

They are stonewalling right now but they'll come around .

Cities like Austin can't just do whatever they want and not follow the law .
They aren't their own country .

Nope. Houston, DFW, SA, and Austin are the economic engines of the state. When Trump country can demonstrate it can fund itself without our taxes, then you'll have a point.

[floridanative10]

Originally Posted by okcthunder1945

LMGTFY

That didnt answer my question and it doesnt back up your numbers, the houston and dallas/ fort worth metro area is not behind boston in gdp.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by floridanative10

That didnt answer my question and it doesnt back up your numbers, the houston and dallas/ fort worth metro area is not behind boston in gdp.

Ive been doing a thread every year for like 8 years on the subject of metro and combined statistical area gdp.

To calculate the gross product, one has to manually add the gdps of each component metro area.

Here is the latest:

2015 Combined Statistical Area & Largest MSAs GDP
Population 3 Million+
New York-Newark-Jersey City $1.828 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach $1.119 Trillion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $ 758.501 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $698.398 Billion
Chicago-Naperville $648.435 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence $550.838 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands $503.311 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth $493.587 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $445.397 Billion
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs $355.914 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma $340.064 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $335.215 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $285.308 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul $232.103 Billion
Denver-Aurora $227.058 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad $220.573 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $219.968 Billion
Portland-Vancouver-Salem $173.538 Billion
Cleveland-Akron-Canton $162.638 Billion
Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach $124.802 Billion


Based on Current Dollar Value.

CSAs and Uncombined MSAs with 3 Million+ Population

New York-Newark CSA $1.828 Trillion
New York MSA $1.602 Trillion
Bridgeport MSA $101.385 Billion
New Haven MSA $45.091 Billion
Allentown MSA $36.968 Billion
Trenton MSA $30.815 Billion
Kingston MSA $5.701 Billion
East Stroudsburg MSA $5.769 Billion

Los Angeles-Long Beach CSA $1.119 Trillion
Los Angeles MSA $930.817 Billion
Riverside MSA $140.637 Billion
Oxnard MSA $48.220 Billion

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA $758.501 Billion
San Francisco MSA $431.704 BillIion
San Jose MSA $235.222 Billion
Stockton MSA $24.606 Billion
Santa Rosa MSA $26.052 Billion
Vallejo MSA $19.646 Billion
Santa Cruz MSA $11.908 Billion
Napa MSA $9.363 Billion

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington CSA $698.398 Billion
Washington MSA $491.042 Billion
Baltimore MSA $181.419 Billion
Hagerstown MSA $8.936 Billion
Chambersburg MSA $5.001 Billion
Winchester MSA $5.911 Billion
California-Lexington Park MSA $6.089 Billion

Chicago-Naperville CSA $648.435 Billion
Chicago MSA $640.656 Billion
Kankakee MSA $3.905 Billion
Michigan City MSA $3.874 Billion

Boston-Worcester-Providence CSA$550.838 Billion
Boston MSA $396.549 Billion
Providence MSA $76.694 Billion
Worcester MSA $39.257 Billion
Manchester MSA $25.442 Billion
Barnstable Town MSA $10.896 Billion

Houston-The Woodlands CSA $503.311 Billion
Houston MSA $503.311 Billion

Dallas-Ft Worth CSA $493.587 Billion
Dallas MSA $489.637 Billion
Sherman MSA $3.950 Billion

Philadelphia-Reading-Camden CSA $445.397 Billion
Philadelphia MSA $397.137 Billion
Reading MSA $17.503 Billion
Atlantic City MSA $13.261 Billion
Vineland MSA $5.735 Billion
Dover MSA $7.104 Billion
Ocean City MSA $4.657 Billion

Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs CSA $355.914 Billion
Atlanta MSA $339.203 Billion
Athens-Clarke County MSA $8.142 Billion
Gainesville MSA $8.569 Billion

Seattle-Tacoma CSA $340.654 Billion
Seattle MSA $313.654 Billion
Olympia MSA $10.796 Billion
Bremerton MSA $10.201 Billion
Mount Vernon MSA $5.413 Billion

Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie CSA $335.215 Billion
Miami MSA $317.896 Billion
Port St Lucie MSA $12.446 Billion
Sebastian MSA $4.873 Billion

Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor CSA $285.308 Billion
Detroit MSA $245.607 Billion
Flint MSA $13.876 Billion
Ann Arbor MSA $21.212 Billion
Monroe MSA $4.613 Billion

Minneapolis-St Paul CSA $232.103 Billion
Minneapolis MSA $223.713 Billion
St Cloud MSA $8.390 Billion

Denver-Aurora CSA $227.058 Billion
Denver MSA $193.172 Billion
Boulder MSA $23.414 Billion
Greeley MSA $10.472 Billion

San Diego MSA $220.573 Billion

Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale MSA $219.968 Billion

Portland-Vancouver-Salem CSA $173.538 Billion
Portland MSA $148.680 Billion
Salem MSA $14.069 Billion
Albany MSA $3.213 Billion
Longview MSA $3.333 Billion
Corvallis MSA $4.243 Billion

Cleveland-Akron-Canton CSA $162.638 Billion
Cleveland MSA $115.432 Billion
Akron MSA $31.168 Billion
Canton MSA $16.046 Billion

Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach $124.802 Billion
Orlando MSA $109.226 Billion
Deltona-Daytona MSA $13.524 Billion
The Villages MSA $2.052 Billion

bea.gov

[floridanative10]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Ive been doing a thread every year for like 8 years on the subject of metro and combined statistical area gdp.

To calculate the gross product, one has to manually add the gdps of each component metro area.

Here is the latest:

2015 Combined Statistical Area & Largest MSAs GDP
Population 3 Million+
New York-Newark-Jersey City $1.828 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach $1.119 Trillion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $ 758.501 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $698.398 Billion
Chicago-Naperville $648.435 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence $550.838 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands $503.311 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth $493.587 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $445.397 Billion
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs $355.914 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma $340.064 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $335.215 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $285.308 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul $232.103 Billion
Denver-Aurora $227.058 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad $220.573 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $219.968 Billion
Portland-Vancouver-Salem $173.538 Billion
Cleveland-Akron-Canton $162.638 Billion
Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach $124.802 Billion


Based on Current Dollar Value.

CSAs and Uncombined MSAs with 3 Million+ Population

New York-Newark CSA $1.828 Trillion
New York MSA $1.602 Trillion
Bridgeport MSA $101.385 Billion
New Haven MSA $45.091 Billion
Allentown MSA $36.968 Billion
Trenton MSA $30.815 Billion
Kingston MSA $5.701 Billion
East Stroudsburg MSA $5.769 Billion

Los Angeles-Long Beach CSA $1.119 Trillion
Los Angeles MSA $930.817 Billion
Riverside MSA $140.637 Billion
Oxnard MSA $48.220 Billion

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland CSA $758.501 Billion
San Francisco MSA $431.704 BillIion
San Jose MSA $235.222 Billion
Stockton MSA $24.606 Billion
Santa Rosa MSA $26.052 Billion
Vallejo MSA $19.646 Billion
Santa Cruz MSA $11.908 Billion
Napa MSA $9.363 Billion

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington CSA $698.398 Billion
Washington MSA $491.042 Billion
Baltimore MSA $181.419 Billion
Hagerstown MSA $8.936 Billion
Chambersburg MSA $5.001 Billion
Winchester MSA $5.911 Billion
California-Lexington Park MSA $6.089 Billion

Chicago-Naperville CSA $648.435 Billion
Chicago MSA $640.656 Billion
Kankakee MSA $3.905 Billion
Michigan City MSA $3.874 Billion

Boston-Worcester-Providence CSA$550.838 Billion
Boston MSA $396.549 Billion
Providence MSA $76.694 Billion
Worcester MSA $39.257 Billion
Manchester MSA $25.442 Billion
Barnstable Town MSA $10.896 Billion

Houston-The Woodlands CSA $503.311 Billion
Houston MSA $503.311 Billion

Dallas-Ft Worth CSA $493.587 Billion
Dallas MSA $489.637 Billion
Sherman MSA $3.950 Billion

Philadelphia-Reading-Camden CSA $445.397 Billion
Philadelphia MSA $397.137 Billion
Reading MSA $17.503 Billion
Atlantic City MSA $13.261 Billion
Vineland MSA $5.735 Billion
Dover MSA $7.104 Billion
Ocean City MSA $4.657 Billion

Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs CSA $355.914 Billion
Atlanta MSA $339.203 Billion
Athens-Clarke County MSA $8.142 Billion
Gainesville MSA $8.569 Billion

Seattle-Tacoma CSA $340.654 Billion
Seattle MSA $313.654 Billion
Olympia MSA $10.796 Billion
Bremerton MSA $10.201 Billion
Mount Vernon MSA $5.413 Billion

Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie CSA $335.215 Billion
Miami MSA $317.896 Billion
Port St Lucie MSA $12.446 Billion
Sebastian MSA $4.873 Billion

Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor CSA $285.308 Billion
Detroit MSA $245.607 Billion
Flint MSA $13.876 Billion
Ann Arbor MSA $21.212 Billion
Monroe MSA $4.613 Billion

Minneapolis-St Paul CSA $232.103 Billion
Minneapolis MSA $223.713 Billion
St Cloud MSA $8.390 Billion

Denver-Aurora CSA $227.058 Billion
Denver MSA $193.172 Billion
Boulder MSA $23.414 Billion
Greeley MSA $10.472 Billion

San Diego MSA $220.573 Billion

Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale MSA $219.968 Billion

Portland-Vancouver-Salem CSA $173.538 Billion
Portland MSA $148.680 Billion
Salem MSA $14.069 Billion
Albany MSA $3.213 Billion
Longview MSA $3.333 Billion
Corvallis MSA $4.243 Billion

Cleveland-Akron-Canton CSA $162.638 Billion
Cleveland MSA $115.432 Billion
Akron MSA $31.168 Billion
Canton MSA $16.046 Billion

Orlando-Deltona-Daytona Beach $124.802 Billion
Orlando MSA $109.226 Billion
Deltona-Daytona MSA $13.524 Billion
The Villages MSA $2.052 Billion

bea.gov

CSA data is not what he linked to ,Houston and Dallas is enormous gdp for a metro areas but who cares when you look at these metros/csa areas?

I grew up through my teenage years in Washington DC which is not even listed in that post I responded to and its a city with enormous GDP and MSA, CSA stats and probably in the top 5 for sure but its a city where 40 percent of the city’s population receive either food stamps, Medicaid assistance, welfare checks or some combination of the three. Its a terribly run city and terribly run metro area with massive traffic that is some of the worst in the nation, crime, just a mess of a area .

What do all these msa/ csa /city proper stats show but poverty and vast inequality of wealth ,dystopian cities and how does illegal immigration really make areas more livable when you add in the cost of

Funding the K-12 education for children who are themselves illegal aliens and for the citizen children of illegal aliens ,ESl costs etc

Justice and law enforcement costs — policing, court and incarceration — associated with illegal aliens

Medical services that cost taxpayers

Public assistance, welfare

[18Montclair]

and so the combined sum of the areas below account for about HALF the nation's economy, about $9 Trillion

New York-Newark-Jersey City $1.828 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach $1.119 Trillion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $ 758.501 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $698.398 Billion
Chicago-Naperville $648.435 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence $550.838 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands $503.311 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth $493.587 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $445.397 Billion
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs $355.914 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma $340.064 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $335.215 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $285.308 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul $232.103 Billion
Denver-Aurora $227.058 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad $220.573 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $219.968 Billion

[floridanative10]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

and so the combined sum of the areas below account for about HALF the nation's economy, about $9 Trillion

New York-Newark-Jersey City $1.828 Trillion
Los Angeles-Long Beach $1.119 Trillion
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland $ 758.501 Billion
Washington-Baltimore-Arlington $698.398 Billion
Chicago-Naperville $648.435 Billion
Boston-Worcester-Providence $550.838 Billion
Houston-The Woodlands $503.311 Billion
Dallas-Ft Worth $493.587 Billion
Philadelphia-Reading-Camden $445.397 Billion
Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs $355.914 Billion
Seattle-Tacoma $340.064 Billion
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Port St Lucie $335.215 Billion
Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor $285.308 Billion
Minneapolis-St Paul $232.103 Billion
Denver-Aurora $227.058 Billion
San Diego-Carlsbad $220.573 Billion
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale $219.968 Billion

You dont even understand the stats you are quoting, csa numbers are not metro gdp numbers and what does that have to do with the costs of illegal immigration? Red states like texas and florida are some of the largest economies on the planet as well. All large states usually are big economies but what does this have to with the costs of illegal immigration?

Places like manhattan and hollywood have alot of media and financial economies that could be recreated anywhere. How do you recreate the natural resources of the red states and the water of the red counties in the sierras in red counties in california?

What does that have to do with illegal immigration and contribution to the economy when you add in

Poverty and vast inequality of wealth , enormous gentrification and homeless dystopian cities and how does illegal immigration really make areas more livable when you add in the costs of illegal immigration

Funding the K-12 education for children who are themselves illegal aliens and for the citizen children of illegal aliens ,ESl costs etc

Justice and law enforcement costs — policing, court and incarceration — associated with illegal aliens

Medical services that cost taxpayers

Public assistance, welfare?

[armourereric]

So, if a major fraction of SoCal illegals were reported, rents and mortgages would become affordable to the legal citizenry middle class?