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Old 02-16-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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An executive order is not good enough as it will just be reversed during the next (D) administration. They need to change that part of the actual ACA or it's just smoke and mirrors.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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However they will for all other injuries... and they far outweigh in numbers than those seeking cancer treatment for free. You can always pick and choose corner cases.. however a person seriously injured will not be turned away from the ER. Hospital will render care... with minimal impact cost wise.. but still an impact.

You only need to look at NJ's Automobile insurance situation to know how badly the uninsured are to the entire system of insurance if you pass the responsibility to those paying insured rather than make it those irresponsible non-payers pay a stiff penalty.
1986 law requires ERS to stabilize a patient regardless of the patient's ability to pay.

It certainly does not mean, the hospital will not bill you for services rendered.

I lived in NJ twice. It's one of 12 states with the no fault insurance thing going on intended to minimize litigation. It, like about half the stat4s also requires uninsured/underinsured motorist insurance. Penalties for driving without insurance tend to be a tad lax, a fine which can escalate to jail time and license suspension and then the uninsured/unlicensed still drive.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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But they could garnish the little bit of wages I use to pay to keep my home.
It's possible.

Better to work out a payment plan and stick to it.

Consequences are highly variable by state and the amount owed.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There are more efficient ways to help out the less fortunate and the church can do this much better than government.
The church? What church? Where is the church that will pick up the tab for people's medical expenses?

Catholic Charities is the largest conduit between government and charities. The vast majority of their funding comes from government grants, not people who attend services. Lutheran Services is the second and they too receive the lion's share of funding from government.

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Old 02-16-2017, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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No we aren't. Why would you do this?
About 75% of us are overweight/obese and substantially more vulnerable to otherwise preventable disease.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Yes, congratulations, you are free to mooch your healthcare off the backs of other people again.
No, purchase it like any other service. You'll be doing the same!
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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About 75% of us are overweight/obese and substantially more vulnerable to otherwise preventable disease.
Lebron James is classified as overweight/obese depending on what weight you use. Tom Brady is classified as overweight.

Usain Bolt barely squeaks in as not overweight.

I don't know why we feel we have to manipulate facts and numbers and be dishonest.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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Yes, congratulations, you are free to mooch your healthcare off the backs of other people again.
It's the people getting Obamacare subsidies that are mooching off other people.

Most young people are healthy and they can't afford the insurance so at tax time they nailed with a fine. Many like me who are healthy (and don't qualify for the Obamacare welfare subsidy) are getting killed with extremely expensive monthly health care premiums. Our monthly premiums are so high to subsidize people getting Obamacare subsidies. If you prefer, I can call those people getting subsidies the moochers.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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I always thought the mandate was corrupt. No one should be required to buy insurance from any private business.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:08 PM
 
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It's the people getting Obamacare subsidies that are mooching off other people.

Most young people are healthy and they can't afford the insurance so at tax time they nailed with a fine. Many like me who are healthy (and don't qualify for the Obamacare welfare subsidy) are getting killed with extremely expensive monthly health care premiums. Our subsidies are so high to subsidize people getting Obamacare subsidies. If you prefer, I can call those people getting subsidies the moochers.
Your premiums are so high because absolutely nothing was done to address the cost side.
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