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Bathrooms aren't the real issue. It is the locker rooms. School kids, both boys and girls, should not have to change clothes and shower in coed settings, and having both penises and vaginas on display is exactly that, coed. Once the clothes are off, nobody sees anyone's feelings nor is there the facade that clothes can create.
Most transgenders are not looking to draw attention to themselves, but one has to question why they insist on being present while biologically opposite gender kids are changing & showering.
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Bathrooms aren't the real issue. It is the locker rooms. School kids, both boys and girls, should not have to change clothes and shower in coed settings, and having both penises and vaginas on display is exactly that, coed. Once the clothes are off, nobody sees anyone's feelings nor is there the facade that clothes can create.
Most transgenders are not looking to draw attention to themselves, but one has to question why they insist on being present while biologically opposite gender kids are changing & showering.
If someone is making the full transition, getting the hormones and then the surgery, it is a process that can take up to 10 years. And you will usually end up looking like the opposite sex before surgery with all the hormones. So you would have someone half way or more through the transition and who no longer looks like their birth gender still use the room of their birth gender just because they haven't had the surgery yet? Asinine
Since if it's such a non issue why is he even addressing it at all?
Because the media pushed it on us, just like same-sex "marriage". In concert with the media, the hard Left used its control of a number of institutions to take action. He's addressing it because others addressed it first without any democratic input.
If someone is making the full transition, getting the hormones and then the surgery, it is a process that can take up to 10 years. And you will usually end up looking like the opposite sex before surgery with all the hormones. So you would have someone half way or more through the transition and who no longer looks like their birth gender still use the room of their birth gender just because they haven't had the surgery yet? Asinine
Going through the process you describe is asinine. Expecting the rest of us to deal with this personal decision and asking us to accept his chosen "gender" when he can't even accept his real one is unfair to the rest of us. We have rights, too.
Explain them using the restroom as "bending over backwards."
As has already been noted several times, the much bigger problem is multiple occupancy locker/shower rooms (read: NO privacy stalls), and the fact that no proof whatsoever that someone is actually transgender is required. Because of that, there have already been abuses by men freely entering and using girls'/women's locker/shower rooms while minor girls and women are half-dressed and naked.
Until SJWs have an adequate way to address that problem, the majority will never accept facility "choice."
So, what is her/his (sorry, don't know what pronoun to use) experience with people like Dechatelet?
Thankfully not a lot of experience (yet) except for strange looks from women in the bathroom. My kid looks very boyish. And believe me, the pronoun thing is complicated even for me so no apologies necessary. I'm still struggling with it. It's a fear, people like Dechatelet...and the other poster who called transgendered people "nut cases". My kid is the most gentle person you could ever know (I sound like Trump, LOL), but the child is frightened.
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Going through the process you describe is asinine. Expecting the rest of us to deal with this personal decision and asking us to accept his chosen "gender" when he can't even accept his real one is unfair to the rest of us. We have rights, too.
There is no cure, so the alternative is depression and suicide. Not pro life, are you?
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