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Old 03-04-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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Putin siding with the Syrian government and bombing innocent people in Syria is a crime against humanity.

Killing opposition leaders in your own country. Marching in, bombing, killing people in Ukraine, because you want to. Oh, yeah Putin is a honey.
Bolded is what the fake news and lying anti-putin propaganda keep saying you.
In fact, Russia is the only country that fighting ISIS for real and doing it very effectively. And Putin is the only political leader of the world who wants peace in Ukraine for real. He is interested in pieace in Ukraine much more than the current ukrainian president who is an ukrainian oligarch and american puppet at the same time.
But if you really want to know the truth about Putin as it is then read this book :
https://www.amazon.com/War-Against-P...int+in+Ukraine

I highly recommend this knowledgeable book to everyone who want to find out of what's going on in actuality. It's time to wake up.


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Not BS, true reporting, you want to kill free press, speech? Move to Russia...
Free press and fake news are not synonyms.
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Old 03-04-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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Putin has been linkede to numerous murders including poisonings over the years and to pretend that this is some kind of conspiracy against Putin is pathetic.
It's not just some kind of conspiracy against Putin. It is the well-organized info war against him. Many sane people already understand the reason why the western political elites demonize Putin. But it's really sad to see that another part of the people are still sleeping.
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Old 03-04-2017, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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It's not just some kind of conspiracy against Putin. It is the well-organized info war against him. Many sane people already understand the reason why the western political elites demonize Putin. But it's really sad to see that another part of the people are still sleeping.
No it isn't, all the evidence points to Putin's henchman Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun and Putin even changed the law that year legalising the use of lethal force against perceived enemies of the state outside of the country.

Why legalise the use of lethal force overseas if you are so innocent.

The evidence both in terms of CCTV (this was Central London), radioactive traces, flight details and witness accounts is more than damning, and in terms of motive Litvinenko’s only enemy was Putin and his regime, nobody else cared about his attacks on Putin, his Organised Crime evidence or his support for the Chechnyan cause.

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For the first time, it also emerged that one of the two prime suspects in the killing had approached a contact in Germany and asked if he knew a chef in London who could slip a “very expensive poison” into Litvinenko’s food or drink.

On the first day of the inquiry, which replaces an inquest into the 43-year-old’s death and has the power to hear secret evidence from intelligence sources, the chairman Sir Robert Owen was given the most detailed account to date of the events surrounding the “state sponsored” assassination.

He was told that Andrey Lugovoy, a former KGB bodyguard, and former soldier Dmitry Kovtun slipped into the country twice with supplies of polonium-210 and administered the fatal dose in a pot of green tea during a meeting with Litvinenko at London’s Millennium Hotel on November 1, 2006.

But Robin Tam QC, council to the Inquiry at the Royal Courts of Justice in London, disclosed that Litvinenko had been the subject of an earlier assassination attempt, during a meeting with Lugovoy and Kovtun at a business premises on October 16 that year.

Lugovoy and Kovtun had flown into the country on that date, and checked into the Best Western Hotel in Shaftesbury Avenue. According to Mr Tam, they had smuggled polonium-210 in their luggage, and left traces of it in their adjacent rooms, 107 and 108.

The radioactive material is easily concealed because its alpha radiation is simple to contain and it does not emit gamma radiation of the sort that might be picked up by airport scanners.

The two men left the country on October 18, but on October 30 Kovtun, who had previously lived in Hamburg where he worked in a restaurant, returned to the German city and met a former colleague, referred to only as D3.

Mr Tam said: “Mr Kovtun raised the subject of Mr Litvinenko, who was unknown to D3. Mr Kovtun said that Mr Litvinenko was a traitor with blood on his hands who did deals with Chechnya.”

Kovtun asked D3 whether he knew any cooks working in London, because: “He had a very expensive poison and that he needed the cook to put the poison in Mr Litvinenko's food or drink.”

D3 thought at the time that Kovtun was “talking rubbish” and only later reported the conversation to the authorities. He did know a chef in London, and gave Kovtun his number, which Kovtun later called to ask for a meeting.

Two days later, on November 1, Kovtun flew from Hamburg to London, where he met Lugovoy, who had already arrived and was staying with his family at the Millennium Hotel in Grosvenor Square.

When Litvinenko fell ill, doctors spent weeks trying to diagnose the cause of his illness, but initially discounted radiation poisoning because there were no traces of gamma radiation.

It was only after an “inspired hunch” by an expert that Litvinenko’s urine was tested at the Atomic Weapons Establishment for the much rarer alpha radiation of the kind emitted by polonium.

Tests at the venues visited by Lugovoy and Kovtun showed that in parts of the boardroom where they met Litvinenko on October 16 there was “full scale deflection” of the instruments – in other words the readings were off the scale.

Similar levels of alpha radiation were found in the spout of a teapot at the Millennium Hotel, with lower levels of contamination found in the Pine Bar and Kovtun’s room, 382.


Alexander Litvinenko 'was poisoned twice with polonium-210' inquiry hears - Telegraph




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Old 03-04-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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The Inquiry involved Queen's Counsel (postnominal QC - the most senior Barristers), submitting evidence at the Royal Courts of Justice in London and was a legal case with a High Court Jusge in charge.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin is a “common criminal dressed up as a Head of State” who ordered the murder of Alexander Litvinenko to stop him exposing him, the inquiry heard.

The former spy was murdered for trying to reveal Putin’s close links to organised crime and a cabal of crime lords who prop up his corrupt regime, it was claimed.

Ben Emmerson QC, representing the Litvinenko family, said the trail behind the “act of unspeakable barbarism” led directly to Putin’s door.

He said Russia was a “Mafia state” where the Kremlin and Russian organised crime syndicates were “indistinguishable”.

Mr Litvinenko could even show crimes committed or authorises by Mr Putin personally, it was claimed.

And the seeds of hatred Putin had towards his former agent which would eventually lead to the murder were first sown in clashes more than eight years before, the inquiry heard.

Putin was a “ruthless and deadly enemy” and “we find Mr Putin's fingerprints as clearly as we find the traces of nuclear material in the forensic evidence”, he said.

In his opening statement to the inquiry, Mr Emmerson said: "Vladimir Putin should be unmasked by this inquiry as nothing more or less than a common criminal dressed up as a Head of State.

“The intimate relationships that will be shown to exist between the Kremlin and Russian organised crime syndicates around the world, are so close as to make the two effectively indistinguishable.

Alexander Litvinenko 'assassinated to stop him exposing Vladimir Putin's links to organised crime' - Telegraph

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Old 03-04-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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No it isn't all the evidence points to Putin's henchman Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun and Putin even changed the law that year legalising the use of lethal force against perceived enemies of the state outside of the country.

Why legalise the use of lethal force overseas if you are so innocent.
First of all, the new law was offered and accepted by russian parliament, not Putin.
Second of all, the legalization of the use lethal force overseas is directed against terrorists, not against personal Putin's enemies and offenders. Russia had a really sad experience with many terrorist attacks on her territory but could do nothing to punish the terrorists and their organizers because they fled abroad or were hiding there. This law is the clear message to terrorists : you will be found everywhere and destroyed. And who would blame russians for that? Correct, the western anti-putin's propaganda that will misinterpret everything against him.

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Old 03-04-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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That was when they were a communist country running an empire.

Hey, you know what, you are right. We do need to spend more money starting confrontation with Russia.

Russians, if you are reading this, you know as well as I do the Catch 22 shown historically throughout the history of empires. Time to switch from offering the olive branch to the next plan. The one that exploits the weakness of empires. They are expensive to run--militarily. The US is too overextended globally in its military commitment to running it's global empire. Make the US burn money and suck the financial life out of the average American. Start creating terrorist attacks throughout all American colonies. Force America to burn money fighting daily a thousand battles on hundreds of battlefields across earth.

For any black African this how you fight America. Make its military fight continually all over the earth. Hit and run. For every soldier you kill the American empire will have to replace that soldier with a new recruit. Force America to cut back money on social programs and building up its infrastructure because it has to shift revenue fighting insurrections all over planet earth. Force America to cut back on the pensions of retired government workers. Latinos, Arabs, Asians, Russians this how you fight the Americans. Send their young back maimed and scared and force the empire to exponentially grow it's debt.



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Very interesting
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Old 03-04-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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Sorry, my british friend. But I feel like I'm talking to a deaf man.
Now I realize that I have wasted my time with you.
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Old 03-04-2017, 12:42 PM
 
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First of all, the new law was offered and accepted by russian parliament, not Putin.
Second of all, the legalization of the use lethal force overseas is directed against terrorists, not against personal Putin's enemies and offenders. Russia had a really sad experience with many terrorist attacks on her territory but could do nothing to punish the terrorists and their organizers because they fled abroad or were hiding there. This law is the clear message to terrorists : you will be found everywhere and destroyed. And who would blame russians for that? Correct, the western anti-putin's propaganda that using it against him.
The Russian Parliament and Putin are as indistinguishable as the relationships that will be shown to exist between the Kremlin and Russian organised crime syndicates around the world, which Mr Emmerson QC, brought to the Courts attention during the public inquiry.


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Sorry, my british friend. But I feel like I'm talking to a deaf man.
Now I realize that I have wasted my time with you.
I am the one talking to a deaf man, there is all the evidence in the world backed up by a police investigation and a full inquiry at the Royal Courts of Justice in front of a High Court Judge.
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Old 03-05-2017, 09:14 AM
 
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Most likely, perhaps, probably, looks like, reportedly etc. - are the sly manipulative method in the british investigative reports to prove Putin is bad for sure. You still can't understand that almost all of your state services work for NWO agenda. They fulfil orders of globalists. If they get an order to prove that Putin is behind 9/11 they would provide you with "scientific evidence" and 500 (600, 700, 900) page report proving that. The funniest thing is that if they would get an order to prove that Putin is innocent they would do it too with "undeniable facts".
Litvinenko has been poisoned by polonium. If Putin really wanted to kill Litvinenko he wouldn't have use such freaking and risky way to eliminate him. Putin is not so stupid as you may think. Everyone knows that Russia has polonium and killing Litvinenko with this way is like leaving a paper note on his dead body that says - "It is me, Putin. I just poisoned Litvinenko." Don't be so naive. This crime is another false flag operation by secret services.



Putin is not such unbalanced wacko to painfully react on personal attacks and allegations. He is exactly otherwise. It's really silly to think he is so quick to take offence and will kill all his offenders. He is not a touchy child.
Not a touchy child. No, that is our present, President and Commander in Chief. Talk about pathetic.
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Old 03-07-2017, 04:54 AM
 
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The New World Order globalists hate both Putin and Trump, because they are nationalists interesting in the well being of their countries, not the well being of multinational corporations.

It's really that simple.

As far as any tactics against them that Trump and Putin might use, it's hard to think of any that would not be totally justified.
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