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Not sure what this has to do with Britain, the US has it's own Foreign Policy.
Although as already pointed out, Russia is led by a Former KGB Thug who has diverted lots of funds in to his own accounts and who has any political opponents or interfering journalists assassinated.
If you want to be friends with Putin's Russia then that's entirely up to the US and it's Government, we British did fall out with him Putin's Russia after Russian Agents poisoned Alexander Litvinenko with Polnium-210 in London in 2006, leaving a radiation trial across London. The Russians also refused Scotland Yards request in relation to questioning suspects Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun and refused an extraditon request.
Litvinenko's death was later followed by Billionare Putin critic Boris Berezovsky's death and numerous others. Putin response was to send nuclear capable bombers to fly over Britain.
Putin also enjoys placing spy ships off Western Countries coastlines and last year NATO warplanes had to scramble 800 times in relation to Russian Aircraft entering NATO Airspace, which is twice the number as the year before. Whilst Putin currently has vast Russian forces placed along European Borders.
Then you have all the controversy related to the influencing of western politics and cyber crime, indeed Putin is now setting up a new branch of the Russian Armed Forces which will focus solely on information warfare.
This is what all sane people call BS and fake news.
The western joutnalism nowadays is misinterpretations and fake news. But since there is a huge info war against Russia, all their articles are "credible" sources.
My british friend, as I remember, I have already told you that the allegations of the globalist media that demonize Russia (Putin) is not any evidence at all. There is no any real proof that Putin is behind of all those murders, hacks etc. All people with a little brain would easy understand that eliminating Litvinenko or Berezovsky is absolutely pointless for Putin. Why murder Litvinenko with such fancy way after he was already "emptied" by MI5? It would be a point to eliminate him to make him silence. But it's pointless after his collaboration with MI5 for years. And what the point to kill Berezovsky that wrote a letter to Putin asking him forgiveness and permission to come back Russia? In fact, Berezovsky was murdered right after a few days of sending the letter to Putin. Those people were killed by MI5 and this is blatantly obvious. And british media that serves NWO agenda covers MI5 tracks very good with aggressively false accusation of Russia and Putin. And sheeple believed them.
It's far closer than that, since we have mutual foreign policy interests. We sell them weapons, we share intelligence, they allow the US to station troops within their country, and they have given us direct assistance in military conflicts. Recently they took part in bombing campaigns alongside coalition forces in the early stages of the fight against ISIS.
The only intrest we really have is trade, and a lot of people would like to see that ended and to cut off relations between Britain and Saudi Arabia. Furthermore Saudi Arabia should not be used as an excuse to ignore the activities of other countries, such as Russia. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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This is the problem, so many in the West feel that they have a duty to sanctimoniously lecture Russia on its culture and political system. Russia has a tradition of strongman leader,s and their experience with Democracy in the 90's was awful. Why would anyone in Russia want to return to that era?
We do lecture them on the little things, like assassinating people in the middle of London with radioactive material and leaving a trial of radiation across London. Russia's appalling Human Rights record speaks for itself, as does it's atitude to certain groups in society and indeed women.
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You have to respect that Russia, like the US, has its own sphere of influence. To encourage its neighbours to join institutions that are hostile to Russia is an antagonistic strategy. A similar thing happened in Latin America during the Cold War, and the US reacted with military force, despite the fact that many of those governments were democratically elected. Also, don't pretend that the West can lecture others on respecting the wishes of foreign governments. Russia rightly sees nothing but hypocrisy in these criticisms. Look the number of anti-western foreign regimes that have been violently overthrown in recent decades.
The neighbouring countries are free to join whatever organisations they wish, they are not governed by Moscow, indeed the best way to ensure a NATO presense in the East is to continue to base large Russian forces on Europe's borders.
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So let's just pretend that the West didn't covertly support the coup, and the pro-western government that came to power afterwards. On the civilian airliner, Russia itself didn't blow it up, why would the Russian government want to do such a thing? Rogue rebels carried it out, but no doubt that Russia had equipped them, and helped to cover it up.
It was confirmed as a Russian Missile Launcher which was very quickly put on to the back of a truck and driven back across the border. This much was confirmed.
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It's not so much the number of bases, but rather the positioning. Just take a look at these US military bases.
You don't need to be especially observant to notice that they are surrounding Russia wherever possible, obviously there's more bases to the east in Alaska, but that's perfectly reasonable. If they could place bases in China and Mongolia there's no doubt that they would. Put yourself in Russia's shoes, would you not feel antagonised by this? Imagine if Russia had military bases in Canada and Mexico? The US would be outraged, and rightly so.
That just shows a lot of US Flags there's nothing to suggest the size of the US bases or their purpose, as for the positioning of most of the bases most are no where near Russia, and there are very few US Personnel in Europe anymore never mind in places such as Kazakhstan.
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It's far closer than that, since we have mutual foreign policy interests. We sell them weapons, we share intelligence, they allow the US to station troops within their country, and they have given us direct assistance in military conflicts. Recently they took part in bombing campaigns alongside coalition forces in the early stages of the fight against ISIS.
This is the problem, so many in the West feel that they have a duty to sanctimoniously lecture Russia on its culture and political system. Russia has a tradition of strongman leader,s and their experience with Democracy in the 90's was awful. Why would anyone in Russia want to return to that era?
You have to respect that Russia, like the US, has its own sphere of influence. To encourage its neighbours to join institutions that are hostile to Russia is an antagonistic strategy. A similar thing happened in Latin America during the Cold War, and the US reacted with military force, despite the fact that many of those governments were democratically elected. Also, don't pretend that the West can lecture others on respecting the wishes of foreign governments. Russia rightly sees nothing but hypocrisy in these criticisms. Look the number of anti-western foreign regimes that have been violently overthrown in recent decades.
So let's just pretend that the West didn't covertly support the coup, and the pro-western government that came to power afterwards. On the civilian airliner, Russia itself didn't blow it up, why would the Russian government want to do such a thing? Rogue rebels carried it out, but no doubt that Russia had equipped them, and helped to cover it up.
It's not so much the number of bases, but rather the positioning. Just take a look at these US military bases.
You don't need to be especially observant to notice that they are surrounding Russia wherever possible, obviously there's more bases to the east in Alaska, but that's perfectly reasonable. If they could place bases in China and Mongolia there's no doubt that they would. Put yourself in Russia's shoes, would you not feel antagonised by this? Imagine if Russia had military bases in Canada and Mexico? The US would be outraged, and rightly so.
This is what all sane people call BS and fake news.
The western joutnalism nowadays is misinterpretations and fake news. But since there is a huge info war against Russia, all their articles are "credible" sources.
My british friend, as I remember, I have already told you that the allegations of the globalist media that demonize Russia (Putin) is not any evidence at all. There is no any real proof that Putin is behind of all those murders, hacks etc. All people with a little brain would easy understand that eliminating Litvinenko or Berezovsky is absolutely pointless for Putin. Why murder Litvinenko with such fancy way after he was already "emptied" by MI5? It would be a point to eliminate him to make him silence. But it's pointless after his collaboration with MI5 for years. And what the point to kill Berezovsky that wrote a letter to Putin asking him forgiveness and permission to come back Russia? In fact, Berezovsky was murdered right after a few days of sending the letter to Putin. Those people were killed by MI5 and this is blatantly obvious. And british media that serves NWO agenda covers MI5 tracks very good with aggressively false accusation of Russia and Putin. And sheeple believed them.
Your post is too idiotic to even waste valuable time and energy responding to, other than to state Litvinenko and Berezovsky were merely harsh critics of Putin, and Putin hated them. Litvineko especially angered Putin by calling him a paedophile.
As for 'Security Service' MI5 it's mainly involved in National Security and threats to the UK such as terrorist threats, and they work closely with the police counter terrorism units.
No. But your posts here are mean trolling.
I can understand that you are russophobe and hating Russia too much by some reason.
But I can't take your dishonest manipulation and indecent incitement against Russia.
This post of yours (below) is another good example of it
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This is the Russian mentality. This was shown on national television:
You desire to suggest people that Russians are so bad providing this vid as a proof of your sentence knowing that nobody can translate the video properly. But you failed here very badly. I am fluent in Russian and just watched the video. And all I can say here you are acting like the BS-ing anti-Russia propaganda that full of lies and inventions. Like a professional propaganda troll.
The content of the vid has nothing to do with your mean accusation. Actually, everything is the other way round in the vid.
If it was just first time you're acting like this, I would have thought that you are just deluded and mistaked. But you doing this very often. And that's disgusting!
The only intrest we really have is trade, and a lot of people would like to see that ended and to cut off relations between Britain and Saudi Arabia. Furthermore Saudi Arabia should not be used as an excuse to ignore the activities of other countries, such as Russia. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Two wrongs?? What about all the other countries we do not confront with a much worse record than Russia...China?? Please.....
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We do lecture them on the little things, like assassinating people in the middle of London with radioactive material and leaving a trial of radiation across London. Russia's appalling Human Rights record speaks for itself, as does it's atitude to certain groups in society and indeed women.
Until there is not unquestionable proof that Putin sends people around killing folks that have no chance of harming him anyway it's all speculation. He is a tough SOB, he is not an idiot.
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The neighbouring countries are free to join whatever organisations they wish, they are not governed by Moscow, indeed the best way to ensure a NATO presense in the East is to continue to base large forces on Europe's borders.
Indeed.....free not gently pushed into coups....you want to place large forces and so does Russia...
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It was confirmed as a Russian Missile Launcher which was very quickly put on to the back of a truck and driven back across the border. This much was confirmed.
Wild speculation on who shot that plane....so no proof.
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That just shows a lot of US Flags there's nothing to suggest the size of the US bases or their purpose,
I guess you are at loss for arguments...let me ask you a question...how many overseas bases has the US?? How many has Russia?? ....yes.....exactly....
All these accusations all over the left side of the media begs the question from me, what's wrong with being friends with Russia? They're not the worst country of the there, I mean, we're friends with Saudi Arabia for crying out loud . The US and Russia we're friends before during the Civil War, the US and UK were enemies until WWI and now both countries are joined at the hip. So what's wrong with being friends with Russia? Who doesn't want us to be friendly with them? The British?
If one of my friends hacked my email accounts and put my private **** out there in the street, I'd pretty much divorce them and unfriend them at the least. Most likely do a lot more than just that. Maybe put a bag of sugar in their gas tank and key the **** out of their car.
Your post is too idiotic to even waste valuable time and energy responding to.
You even don't realize that you have just showed the true level of your understanding of things with your response. And this level is not your trump card.
..The reason we can not be "friends" is because our beliefs and goals are 180 out of phase with theirs. We are basically peace loving, they are actively trying to take over the world..
Is it sarcasm or just a statement of a blind man that sees the reality in a perverted mode?
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. The US and Russia we're friends before during the Civil War, the US and UK were enemies until WWI and now both countries are joined at the hip. So what's wrong with being friends with Russia? Who doesn't want us to be friendly with them? The British?
