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Old 03-04-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
" The FBI operates independently of the White House. Obama does not order FBI investigations to start or end."

On paper you are correct.

In the "real" world, you could be wrong.

How long did you work for the FBI?

You are claiming that if the BOSS of the Director of the FBI tells him to start an investigation, that the Director would IGNORE what his boss tells him what to do?

What world do you live in?
If the BOSS of the Director of the FBI had complete control over him, then Comey would have never sent that letter to Congress 11 days before the election.

You can't hail Comey as a hero for "exposing" Hillary while simultaneously criticizing him for obtaining a FISA warrant to investigate Trump.

 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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So former President Barack Obama has been accused of attempting to subvert the election process by current President Donald Trump. Is that what's happening here? If so - is the Justice Department going to open up an investigation because this is a very serious claim that threatens the integrity of our democracy?
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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That would not provide a legal basis for a court order. It's legal to email banks.
Please, tell us more. We need your vast legal expertise in FISA evidentiary hearings.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:43 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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If the wiretap charge is true it is totally possible Obama has plausible deniability. I wouldn't put it past good old Valerie Jarrett or his chief of staff or just his/Hillary's supporters embedded in those intel agencies trying to help their king/queen...
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This has Malicious Intent, written all over it.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by Grizzmeister View Post
So former President Barack Obama has been accused of attempting to subvert the election process by current President Donald Trump. Is that what's happening here? If so - is the Justice Department going to open up an investigation because this is a very serious claim that threatens the integrity of our democracy?
Let's get it all out there. All of Trump's tax returns, the wire intercepts, bank records, etc. The fact Trump personally sold property to Russian monsters in Trump Tower...
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
If the BOSS of the Director of the FBI had complete control over him, then Comey would have never sent that letter to Congress 11 days before the election.

You can't hail Comey as a hero for "exposing" Hillary while simultaneously criticizing him for obtaining a FISA warrant to investigate Trump.


You implying it is the FBI leaking classified information to the press, the Democrat members of congress and the Hillary campaign.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:47 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Obama & FISA: Trump Wiretap May Have Been Sought | National Review
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:47 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
If the BOSS of the Director of the FBI had complete control over him, then Comey would have never sent that letter to Congress 11 days before the election.

You can't hail Comey as a hero for "exposing" Hillary while simultaneously criticizing him for obtaining a FISA warrant to investigate Trump.
Not complete control but back channel control. Comey didn't recommend charging Hillary even though he laid out a perfect case to do so. Now also remember that the head of the DOJ stated that Hillary wouldn't be indicted well before Comey was even finished with his investigation.
So, while you are right the President doesn't have "direct control" of the FBI he certainly does with respect to the DOJ and the DOJ can telegraph to the FBI what it will or won't do...
 
Old 03-04-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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Somewhere in Russia, Vladimir Putin is laughing with delight over the fact that Trump is destroying the very fabric of the United State's legal system by making reckless accusation via a Twitter account.
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