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"According to Trump it did happen" is evidence of nothing but the depths Trump will sink to to deflect from his own ineptitude.
I love that "according trump it did happen" - like he had the largest crowd on the mall at the inauguration ever, and Mexican will pay for the wall, and... well, you know. He is going to tarnish any successes that he has with his really stoopid behavior. All history will remember is the outlandish stuff. That's the way the cookies crumble.
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Doesn't look like it to me. President Trump will be fine. On the other hand, based on posts in this topic, his detractors are coming absolutely unglued.
His detractors are simply asking for FACTS supporting his otherwise baseless allegations. Much to the detriment of the country, that seems to be a foreign concept in Trumplandia.
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Difficult times are ahead for the Crybaby in Chief when proof of his inane allegations is subpoenaed.
Do you know how to google? Try it sometime - this was reported back in Nov " Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia."
Since he is President - he now has access to all the records - so what was rumored is now confirmed.
Do you know how to google? Try it sometime - this was reported back in Nov " Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia."
Since he is President - he now has access to all the records - so what was rumored is now confirmed.
So, if a FISA judge approved it, it was a legal tap, and there was sufficient evidence to have the judge sign off on a warrant. Right?
1. Do you know, as you claimed, that Obama tapped it himself, or that he initiated the tapping?
2. Do you know, as you insinuated, that there was NOT a court order?
What do I think?: I think that there is mounting evidence that Trump and/or his team had more contact with Russia than is appropriate or normal. I think that if Obama was involved in any way, that it was done like everything else he did over the past 8 years, BY THE BOOK. Obama was as clean a President as we've had in my 50 years. You may not like his politics, but he was and is scandal free. A LOT of stuff has been thrown at him, but he's showing to be better over 8 years than Trump in less than 8 weeks.
Normal candidates for president aren't billionaires who own properties all over the world.
"A LOT of stuff has been thrown at him, but he's showing to be better over 8 years than Trump in less than 8 weeks."
This is true, but shouldn't we ask why?
Obama, in spite of rhetoric to the contrary, is an insider.
You can do business with him, and when "business" is screwing ordinary Americans, that matters.
Trump, on the other hand, is a problem.
He refuses to go along with the program.
He's a real pain in the ass for the establishment.
In fact, the only people who actually support Trump are people like me who work hard, obey the law and pay lots and lots of taxes.
These people are a pain in the ass for the establishment too.
We're ****ting all over their ambitious plans to make working Americans virtual slaves serving a global oligarchy that concentrates wealth into the hands of just a few well-connected daddy's boys.
If we hadn't ****ed everything up by electing Trump, Hillary would be having her TPP change of heart about right about now and the bought and paid for corporate whores in DC would be celebrating their latest victory over the despised working-class.
WoW. The more time passes, the more damning of the Obama administration this becomes. Obama and his cronies might be facing some very serious charges in future months.
Do you know how to google? Try it sometime - this was reported back in Nov " Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia."
Since he is President - he now has access to all the records - so what was rumored is now confirmed.
Why doesn't Trump NOW, as commander in chief order the agencies to reveal what they did and present it to congress?
But you have been 100% wrong about Trump. You did after all tell us for months that he would never be elected.
BTW, where's that evidence from Obama where he claimed that Russians caused Hillary to lose the election?
Deflect, deflect, deflect. Once again I ask you, where's the evidence that Obama tapped Trump's phones, other than a rambling paranoid tweet from Trump? As you have pointed out, he is president now, so this is the relevant question to answer.
But, they absolutely have the power to influence the decision to order a wire tap.
We get it. Nothing is ever Trump's fault.
The Yemen raid is on the military and Obama.
The smallish Inauguration numbers are on the media (aka "opposition party") who reported fake news and denied the public the truth about the 2 million people present.
The failure of his travel ban was the fault of Obama judges even though it was knocked down by a Bush appointee in Washington.
And now the FBI seeking a FISA warrant is Obama's fault, not Trump's fault for engaging in conduct that could give rise to probable cause upon which a warrant could issue.
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