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View Poll Results: Was it in the National Interest for Obama to have Tapped Trump's Telephones?
No - Obama abused his power 136 84.47%
Yes - Obama was protecting Americans 25 15.53%
Voters: 161. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-04-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
The president does not have the authority to order a "wiretap". End of discussion.
But he could leave it to the discretion of one of his nominees or appointees, correct?
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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You need to set your standards for truth a little higher,
What do you suggest?
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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Nothing more than a ridiculous witch hunt as a BO spokesman has completely denied
Didn't they also tell the American people they could keep their doctor too?
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Obama has apparently tapped Trump's telephones.

He is only supposed to tap American's phones with court order and proof that nation is in danger.

This sounds more like political back stabbing. Some are calling it Obamagate.

What do you think?
This latest insane Trump lie just confirms to me that the man belongs in a rubber room, the sooner the better.
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Obama has apparently tapped Trump's telephones.

He is only supposed to tap American's phones with court order and proof that nation is in danger.

This sounds more like political back stabbing. Some are calling it Obamagate.

What do you think?
No he hasn't. And no one's calling it Obamagate.
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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Can Trump really be so dumb to not know that if his phones were tapped there was probable cause? I wouldn't be announcing to the world that my integrity was in question.
He's truly an idiot. This attempt at deflection just makes his situation worse, since it would indicate the secret court found probable cause to issue a FISA warrant to listen in on Trump and his advisors' phone calls.

That's really really bad for Trump.


I'm still annoyed that Trump worshippers are still defending him on this board. Can't they go run away to 4chan or whatever Russian cesspool they came from?
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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That is why it's called "illegal".
At this point the only thing we can call it is "yet another Trump lie."
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Old 03-04-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: United States
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
FAKE NEWS *** FAKE NEWS

Trump presented ZERO EVIDENCE Obama tapped his phone lines

Trump is a serial, paranoid LIAR. Here's proof:

" Three Million Illegal Voters "
" Obama Was Born in Kenya "
" Obama Wire Tapped Me "


These are all Trump statements, all ABSURD and all are made with NO EVIDENCE.
There's about the same amount of evidence that Trump has connections to Russia.

It's funny how you dems believe every, and any unfounded claim about Trump without question, but something like this comes up, and you demand hard evidence.

Your partisanship is showing.
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Old 03-04-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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He's truly an idiot. This attempt at deflection just makes his situation worse, since it would indicate the secret court found probable cause to issue a FISA warrant to listen in on Trump and his advisors' phone calls.

That's really really bad for Trump.


I'm still annoyed that Trump worshippers are still defending him on this board. Can't they go run away to 4chan or whatever Russian cesspool they came from?
And the massive deflection by more than a few high profile dems/the media accusing trump/his admin of this/that/the other thing left and right in hyper mode with no proof aren't "truly idiots" and aren't "attempt at deflection"?

The pot meeting the kettle in overdrive yet so many refuse to see the clear hypocrisy. I can always count on humor visiting the CD political threads. Thanks for my daily dose in one post fiyero.

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There's about the same amount of evidence that Trump has connections to Russia.

It's funny how you dems believe every, and any unfounded claim about Trump without question, but something like this comes up, and you demand hard evidence.

Your partisanship is showing.
Spot on.

Much of the herd is blind to their unhealthy/naive loyalty to team......*insert one's favorite "team" here*

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Old 03-04-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
Obama has apparently tapped Trump's telephones.

He is only supposed to tap American's phones with court order and proof that nation is in danger.

This sounds more like political back stabbing. Some are calling it Obamagate.

What do you think?
It's a rather obvious question. IF this is true it was absolutely illegal, and if he got a warrant it was petty and most likely illegal. He stacked the courts, so... that's a whole other can of worms to open.


Let's face the fact that the courts are no longer adhering to the law. Judges are making decisions based on their personal ideologies rather than constitutional justice. THAT is dangerous.

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