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Sounds like just another one of those cesspools where it's impossible to know just WHO the 'good-guys' are and that's assuming there are any 'good-guys'.
There are no good guys, just guys who the US think it will be able to control.
With Assad gone, the US would have the green light to back any group they want fully and openly, under the guise of "creating stability", but it is actually making sure a regime loyal to the US takes power and stays in power.
I hope that if we are going in there actively, especially on the ground, that we have proper rules of engagement, that all the military personnel there are equipped as well as they need to be, and that it is a quick, effective and efficient action and then we get out fast (with no apologies) and bring our forces home safely.
Oh yeah!! Rules of engagement. I hope they do it right this time.
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There are no good guys, just guys who the US think it will be able to control.
With Assad gone, the US would have the green light to back any group they want fully and openly, under the guise of "creating stability", but it is actually making sure a regime loyal to the US takes power and stays in power.
OH BOY! More asinine Washington dreams of nation building while letting our own go to seed.
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I can't speak for ALL Trump supporters. I supported Trump because he said, "You cannot fight two wars at the same time."
Both Hillary and Trump will have to defeat ISIS, war is unavoidable no matter who won presidency. It is just the reality. 100% isolationism is not reality for America. Come on, now.
There's a large difference between isolationism and non-interventionism. I favor the latter.
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Although Iraqis have often expressed opposition to a US military presence on the ground in Iraq, most pro-Western Kurds have been in favour of a US military presence on the ground and have even called for establishing US military bases in Kurdistan to protect the stateless Kurds against their hostile neighbours.
Also, the Kurdish security chief Masrour Barzani in the past talked about the need for more coalition ground forces to fight ISIS.
“So there must be some ground forces so they can go after them, to fight them. It depends on how quickly the West wants to destroy ISIS. If they want to do it quickly, then there is a need for efficient and effective ground forces to go after them [ISIS],” Barzani said in 2015.
The Iraqis and Kurds can express all the opinions they care to but I very much doubt what's best for the US is their #1 priority, which ours should be.
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“If they [Coalition] are waiting for the local forces to be ready to do this job then it will take a longer time,” he said.
All the countries in the region most threatened by ISIS have military forces, they should be the ones to deal with ISIS.
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Indeed.
Obama's "nice" wars of choice have gone no where in 8 years. Time to get these things over with and bring the troops home.
Bush's 'shock & awe' war wasn't exactly a sparkling success either, those troops never should have been deployed in the first place.
I'm still of the opinion we need a Constitutional Amendment placing a strict limit on the length of time a POTUS can deploy combat troops anywhere without a formal declaration of war being issued by Congress. Let those who get us involved in these jackpots sign their names and be held responsible for their actions.
There's a large difference between isolationism and non-interventionism. I favor the latter.
The Iraqis and Kurds can express all the opinions they care to but I very much doubt what's best for the US is their #1 priority, which ours should be.
All the countries in the region most threatened by ISIS have military forces, they should be the ones to deal with ISIS.
There is an ideal world and a fantasy world.
We are talking about American politics here. Even non-interventionism is not reality.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, but reality is reality.
So between Trump and Hillary, Trump's war will be quick. Well, in my opinion.
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