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Old 03-20-2017, 08:37 AM
 
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how can anyone take the BC Obama subsequently offered seriously?
Because the State of Hawaii has confirmed it.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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Because the State of Hawaii has confirmed it.
As if government officials never lie...

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan..."

Ring a bell?
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:44 AM
 
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You see, it's not about race, it's about the circumstances of one's birth. Since Obama himself claimed he couldn't prove Obama Sr was his father when Obama Sr died in 1982, even though he found his BC while in high school (1975-1979) amongst other documents (both facts are in Obama's Dreams from My Father book published in 1995), how can anyone take the BC Obama subsequently offered seriously?
Simple answer, born in the United States to an American mother. But you know this already. What your posts in this thread amount to is little more than blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, ending with the predictable, "Show us your papers, boy!"

Birthers' true motivations fool no one.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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As if government officials never lie...

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan..."

Ring a bell?
Since the State of Hawaii is the final authority, the ONLY authority, on who is born there and who is not, and since multiple officials, both Republican and Democratic, have confirmed that President Obama was born in Hawaii, your numerous attempts to refute the truth is at a dead end. You can keep spinning your wheels and revving your engine, but you aren't going anywhere on this issue.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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Legit question: Are presidential candidates ever vetted by the FBI, CIA or other intelligence agencies in order to make sure they aren't a danger to the country? Like...someone supposedly faking where they were born to apparently spread Big Bad Islam everywhere from the White House?
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Legit question: Are presidential candidates ever vetted by the FBI, CIA or other intelligence agencies in order to make sure they aren't a danger to the country? Like...someone supposedly faking where they were born to apparently spread Big Bad Islam everywhere from the White House?
Presidential candidates are vetted by the people. Campaigns are extended vetting sessions, where the people can challenge candidates on their views, their qualifications, their backgrounds. That's one of the reasons Presidential campaigns in the United States go on for so long.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Presidential candidates are vetted by the people. Campaigns are extended vetting sessions, where the people can challenge candidates on their views, their qualifications, their backgrounds. That's one of the reasons Presidential campaigns in the United States go on for so long.
So none of the intelligence agencies do any research on the candidates? That's interesting.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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So none of the intelligence agencies do any research on the candidates? That's interesting.
If something comes up about a candidate that implicates them in a crime or activity of interest to one of the intelligence agencies, the agencies would investigate. However, there is no procedure in place for candidates, upon announcing their candidacy, to submit to any investigations by the FBI or other agencies. The political parties are charged with assuring that a candidate is qualified to run, but those qualifications are the bare minimum that the Constitution lists. When it comes to natural born citizenship, the Constitution does not explicitly define a natural born citizen. However, the law describes only two kinds of citizenship, those born citizens, and those who become citizens. If one is born a citizen, then the presumption is that one meets the qualification of natural born citizen. If one becomes a citizen, then the presumption is that one does not meet that qualification.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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There is more evidence Obama's long form is a forgery, ....
no, there isn't.

the birther "experts" even began contradicting each other with mike zullo claiming that obama's birth certificate was created using joanna ah'nee's birth certificate as a template and doug vogt claiming the ah'nee birth certificate was also a forgery ( co-created by "birther princess" miki booth ).

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Is it a coincidence Obama's brother brings up the only document that has not been put under stringent investigation?
most of the birthers ( including WND ) accept that the lucas smith BC is blatantly fake because it is obviously so ( the convicted forger got the date sequence wrong! )

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His own brother in an affidavit says it is legit.
you've made that up. malik has done no such thing. i'm just curious if you're intentionally trying to be deceptive or if you've convinced yourself that it's true.

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Again, way back there is an affidavit saying no Birth Certificate in Hawaii records exists...
tim adams' affidavit, that's never been submitted in any court, claims that he heard his supervisors at the elections office claim there was no "long-form hospital generated" BC for obama. the problems with that:

A: this is hearsay. adams has no direct knowledge nor does he ever say who he believed said it.

B: election offices do not have access to birth certificates. adams' supervisors would have no direct knowledge of the subject.

C: hospitals do not generate legal birth certificates, state departments of health do.

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... Obamas own lawyers admit is a forgery
wrong. it's already been pointed out to you in this thread that this claim is false. again, you are either intentionally trying to deceive or you are delusional.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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As if government officials never lie...

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan..."

Ring a bell?
From 7 years ago.

There are a WHOLE LOTTA whoppers from just the past two months that in comparison make that one microscopic.

The current "administration" is powered by childish obvious lies, without regard to consequences to our national interest.

Stay tuned for months of amusement.

Carry on.

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