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Old 03-25-2017, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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President Trump says so.....that's scary stuff

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Old 03-25-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Actually, I had heard that long before the election, and not from trump.
1. Premiums for many people rose by 25 to 100 per cent.
2. Insurance companies are bailing out of the system.
3. I have yet to hear of anybody who saved $2500 on their insurance as a certain person promised.
4. I have heard of many people who had to find a different health care provider, in spite of what a certain person promised.
5. In spite of promises, not everybody is insured, even yet.

While it is too early to call the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act a failure, it is heading in that direction, it would appear; and it is still the Double Lie: It does not protect patients, and it is not affordable!
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Actually, I had heard that long before the election, and not from trump.
1. Premiums for many people rose by 25 to 100 per cent.
2. Insurance companies are bailing out of the system.
3. I have yet to hear of anybody who saved $2500 on their insurance as a certain person promised.
4. I have heard of many people who had to find a different health care provider, in spite of what a certain person promised.
5. In spite of promises, not everybody is insured, even yet.

While it is too early to call the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act a failure, it is heading in that direction, it would appear; and it is still the Double Lie: It does not protect patients, and it is not affordable!
Many of us bipartisan moderates have been saying that for years. I was warning it would implode back in 2010. It's not too early as it is proving to be unsustainable at the trajectory it's going.

If something is too good to be true, it is probably a lie. Last count Obama lied at least 40 times about it.
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Actually, I had heard that long before the election, and not from trump.
1. Premiums for many people rose by 25 to 100 per cent.
2. Insurance companies are bailing out of the system.
3. I have yet to hear of anybody who saved $2500 on their insurance as a certain person promised.
4. I have heard of many people who had to find a different health care provider, in spite of what a certain person promised.
5. In spite of promises, not everybody is insured, even yet.

While it is too early to call the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act a failure, it is heading in that direction, it would appear; and it is still the Double Lie: It does not protect patients, and it is not affordable!
How about the healthcare plan that went down the tubes yesterday with premiums going up 12,000 per cent for the 60+ crowd?
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:49 PM
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I never heard so many people complain about their health insurance until they had something other than the health insurance companies to blame it on. It was supposed to blow up seven years ago already.
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Old 03-25-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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Actually, I had heard that long before the election, and not from trump.
1. Premiums for many people rose by 25 to 100 per cent.
2. Insurance companies are bailing out of the system.
3. I have yet to hear of anybody who saved $2500 on their insurance as a certain person promised.
4. I have heard of many people who had to find a different health care provider, in spite of what a certain person promised.
5. In spite of promises, not everybody is insured, even yet.

While it is too early to call the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act a failure, it is heading in that direction, it would appear; and it is still the Double Lie: It does not protect patients, and it is not affordable!
Premiums were rising before the ACA. They rose every year like clockwork.

Millions more people are insured now than pre-ACA. TrumpCare would have reversed that trend.

The ACA has a lot in it that is about the protection of patients. Look up something called the Essential Health Benefits. You should have no trouble finding them, since taking those away from Americans was the carrot that Trump and Ryan attempted to use to get the Freedom Caucus to get on board.

Frankly, I'm surprised the Freedom Caucus didn't go for it. Screwing over Americans is what that group lives for.
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Old 03-25-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Frankly, I'm surprised the Freedom Caucus didn't go for it. Screwing over Americans is what that group lives for.
Apparently you were proven wrong

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I never heard so many people complain about their health insurance until they had something other than the health insurance companies to blame it on. It was supposed to blow up seven years ago already.
No, it was suppose to blow up after 10 years, so it's right on schedule. Many of us were saying the REAL sht wouldn't hit the fan until 2017 when Obama was out of office... and, here we are. It's nice to be right, but in this case... it's tragic.

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Old 03-25-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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How about the healthcare plan that went down the tubes yesterday with premiums going up 12,000 per cent for the 60+ crowd?
Good point. This is what premiums looks like as a p% of income for a 60 year old making $20,000. Obamacare vs. Trumpcare. (Source: https://t.co/QrWq0W30Xz)

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Old 03-25-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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Some of these implosion posts are so silly and over the top , it is hard to tell if they are mocking the rightwing , or actually just low information Rightwing supporters. Trumpers etc..


CBO says OP is wrong. There you go. A group led by the republicans says Obamacare will not implode, explode etc.
https://www.cbo.gov/

i know you wont actually read through that, because it requires a little effort , to parse and understand, so here is an easy simplified version to reduce the workload..

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...implosion-ahca
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Old 03-25-2017, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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For as long as there was an Obamacare, the right-wing has been predicting its demise. This was written in 2014: Obamacare Fails to Fail
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