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Old 03-28-2017, 05:24 AM
 
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It's easy. We re-elect them over and over. It's that simple.
The 'Freedom Caucus' is a perpetuation of the Libertarian Party of the 1980s. Both Parties have jumped on that bandwagon since the 1980s. In reality, it's more like 1 Party of Free Market Fundamentalists working on behalf of big money to defend large capital & without benefit to the American people. Like, $1 = 1 vote, so to speak.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:31 AM
 
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Citizen's United is a bum deal.
Libertarians support the Citizens United ruling.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:39 AM
 
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Reminds me of that observation from John Boehner:

"In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once,” Boehner said. “And all this happy talk that went on in November and December and January about repeal, repeal, repeal—yeah, we'll do replace, replace—I started laughing, because if you pass repeal without replace, first, anything that happens is your fault. You broke it.”
I always thought that was strange, what point is there in repeal other than fulfilling a promise they had made for 7 years. Repeal is the easy part. They sure ginned up their base with this one and the campaign money flowed in along with the election results, and now they have been exposed.
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:47 AM
 
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Reading this article, I was amazed that grown people in congress would be playing games that most of us outgrew after Kindergarten. This so-called Freedom Caucus made a pact among themselves, that no one of them would make a commitment to vote to pass the ACA legislation, unless they consulted with the group and had their permission.

I wonder how the constituents of these individuals feel, when they realize their interests are not being represented, but rather those of an independent, renegade group, with its own, contrary agenda. Their jobs are supposed to be to promote the well-being of their own constituents and also those of the country as a whole. I don't like any of these self-organized coalitions, that are attempts to gain more power for the self-interests of these politicians.

How a secret Freedom Caucus pact brought down Obamacare repeal - POLITICO
You should give this info to Trump. Apparently he had no idea that there were enough representatives in this "caucus" to block his bill and that they were inclined not to vote for it ahead of time.
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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I don't care much for congressman Joe Barton from TX, but you have to love his honesty. Nothing we didn't know already, the last 60 repeals were just to raise money and get their constituency cranked up, obviously the bill that Obama vetoed last year was just a fake, they never really had a plan all these 7 years.
While I do appreciate Mr. Barton's honesty, & even the 'Fantasy Football' analogy, I'm more than over the fantasy-based approach to problem solving, it's lame.

Personally, prefer the reality-based, critical & creative thinking strategy as opposed to the fantasy-based ideological one.
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