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Old 04-07-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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I stand by what I said. He has been spending lot of time kissing Putin's feet.
So you still sincerely think Putin wanted this and is behind the attack.

Sheep.
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:07 PM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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Default Susan Rice WRONG AGAIN

Sorry Susan, but Obama was played and now we know Syria still has chemical weapons.

Rice Took Credit For Handling Assad Without 'Use Of Force' | The Daily Caller
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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First paragraph of that article sums it up nicely:

"Donald Trump, the man who just over a month ago wanted to bar entry of all Syrian refugees into the United States, now wants us to think that he cares deeply about Syrian children. I don’t believe it."
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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I am puzzled by the posters saying we wasted or spent X dollars on these missiles. (also puzzled by some of the math being applied). The missiles actually have (had) no value and only one purpose. It is not like we could have sold them to someone for $90 million or whatever other amount you want to calculate. They were not purchased for or because of this attack, they are just some old missiles we happened to have laying around unused. They are not going to congress for more money being appropriated to pay for these 59 missiles. In fact, those missiles were not even purchased during the current presidency. So you really need to get past the idea that money was wasted. Actually They spent next to nothing on this attack.
Wow, what an incredibly twisted excuse.

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"Well they wasted missiles" How so? The purpose of the missiles is ti blow things up. They used the missiles to blow things up. Had they not used them, they would have been used to blow up our own surplus tanks or planes in practice, or they would have been decommissioned taken apart and placed into a landfill. We are obviously trying to get rid of these missiles (look at the lists above of prior uses of hundreds and hundreds of them). So for those who say the missiles were "wasted," if you do not mind explaining, could you please confirm you understand the only purpose or use for these missiles is to blow things up, and if so, then what is it you feel they should have blown up that would be less wasteful? Or if you feel it woudl have been less wasteful of the missiles to put them into a landfill, please so indicate. Please no cheating and arguing all implements of war should be put into a landfill and we should have no more war at all. Of course everyone wants that, but it has not been achievable for the past 200,000 years, it is not happening now either. Please lets stick to some hypothetical reality when discussin what we think should have been done with these missles instead of blowing up nerve gas/airplanes.


It appears some people think we wasted too many missiles while others complain we did not use enough of them and destroy every inch of the airfield. Many posters appear to be claiming both. If you do not mind, could you please specify whether you think we used too many or too few? It would help me to understand what you are trying to say.
We have some nuclear weapons we've paid for and not used yet............A hell of a lot of lives we haven't ended yet. After all, they cost us nothing.
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:15 PM
 
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First paragraph of that article sums it up nicely:

"Donald Trump, the man who just over a month ago wanted to bar entry of all Syrian refugees into the United States, now wants us to think that he cares deeply about Syrian children. I don’t believe it."
So one person doesn't believe something..... Hardly worth him writing an article.
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:23 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Is that the latest excuse? America sold chemical weapons to Iraq in the 1980s and now you claim Saddam moved them to Syria so both Iraq and Syria must be attacked?
no.
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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no.
On February 9, 1994, Senator Riegle delivered a report -commonly known as the Riegle Report- in which it was stated that "pathogenic (meaning 'disease producing'), toxigenic (meaning 'poisonous'), and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce." It added: "These exported biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."[24] The report then detailed 70 shipments (including Bacillus anthracis) from the United States to Iraqi government agencies over three years, concluding "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the UN inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program."[25]

Donald Riegle, Chairman of the Senate committee that authored the aforementioned Riegle Report, said:

U.N. inspectors had identified many United States manufactured items that had been exported from the United States to Iraq under licenses issued by the Department of Commerce, and [established] that these items were used to further Iraq's chemical and nuclear weapons development and its missile delivery system development programs. ... The executive branch of our government approved 771 different export licenses for sale of dual-use technology to Iraq. I think that is a devastating record.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...%80%93Iraq_war
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:31 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Originally Posted by Coldjensens View Post
I am puzzled by the posters saying we wasted or spent X dollars on these missiles. (also puzzled by some of the math being applied). The missiles actually have (had) no value and only one purpose. It is not like we could have sold them to someone for $90 million or whatever other amount you want to calculate. They were not purchased for or because of this attack, they are just some old missiles we happened to have laying around unused. They are not going to congress for more money being appropriated to pay for these 59 missiles. In fact, those missiles were not even purchased during the current presidency. So you really need to get past the idea that money was wasted. Actually They spent next to nothing on this attack.

"Well they wasted missiles" How so? The purpose of the missiles is ti blow things up. They used the missiles to blow things up. Had they not used them, they would have been used to blow up our own surplus tanks or planes in practice, or they would have been decommissioned taken apart and placed into a landfill. We are obviously trying to get rid of these missiles (look at the lists above of prior uses of hundreds and hundreds of them). So for those who say the missiles were "wasted," if you do not mind explaining, could you please confirm you understand the only purpose or use for these missiles is to blow things up, and if so, then what is it you feel they should have blown up that would be less wasteful? Or if you feel it woudl have been less wasteful of the missiles to put them into a landfill, please so indicate. Please no cheating and arguing all implements of war should be put into a landfill and we should have no more war at all. Of course everyone wants that, but it has not been achievable for the past 200,000 years, it is not happening now either. Please lets stick to some hypothetical reality when discussin what we think should have been done with these missles instead of blowing up nerve gas/airplanes.


It appears some people think we wasted too many missiles while others complain we did not use enough of them and destroy every inch of the airfield. Many posters appear to be claiming both. If you do not mind, could you please specify whether you think we used too many or too few? It would help me to understand what you are trying to say.
I'd heard they cost 500 k per so that would mean 29.5 Mil, but if you're a radical alt Leftist, it's x4.

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Is that the latest excuse? America sold chemical weapons to Iraq in the 1980s and now you claim Saddam moved them to Syria so both Iraq and Syria must be attacked? Meanwhile, as trillions are spent waging perpetual wars in the Middle East, the working class back home is suffering. Whats so great about that?
No, your Intelligence Community is who brought us WMDs so, there ya go. Now those stupid idiots from the NSA, CIA, FBI etc. can't even rig an election against our President Donald J. Trump.

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Old 04-07-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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So you still sincerely think Putin wanted this and is behind the attack.

Sheep.
No, I think they might be on to something. I think they should continue to vigorously pursue and keep touting this line of thinking as a primary basis for why people should elect Democrats in 2018. Pretty sure that have the winning position here. Do not listen to Michiganmoon, you go tell all your friends this is the way to go. They should argue with their neighbors that is the reason Democrats are right for this country. Better yet make up a lot of signs and have a "Trump and Putin planned the gas and missile events together to distract attention from the investigation" protest. Get it on the news!. If you cannot get enough people to join your protest to get news attention, burn some cars and break windows, or burn a stuffed goat in effigy. You can do it. Make this THE issue of 2018. Don't let it die. This is the most stunning logic the left has come up with in years.
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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McCain on CNN was ear to ear smiles. Proof that Trump has capitulated to the global interventionists.
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