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They haven't used WMDs for three years, so according to your argument even Obama's un-enforced red line was effective since Assad did not drop more gas the same day, or the next day. or the next three years.
Plus we don't even know for sure if Assad used them last week.
Will Assad ever use them again? Who knows, but that will be the measure of the success. They flipped US the finger by conducting bombing runs from that base the same day, and that means the "message" was made fun of.
If memory serves the "evidence" the public was given was jet(s) were tracked leaving the base, tracked flying over the city, the WMD's fell from the sky, the jet(s) returned to the base.
So, unless you think the WMD's were dropped by pelicans controlled by the rebels or dropped from the nonexistent rebel air force or, that the reports of it falling from the sky were lies what other conclusion makes sense?
Maybe the U.S. dropped the WMD's, Is that what you think?
If memory serves the "evidence" the public was given was jet(s) were tracked leaving the base, tracked flying over the city, the WMD's fell from the sky, the jet(s) returned to the base.
Where is the evidence of WMDs falling from the jets?
Those are comments from random people on the street, so who knows what they thought they saw, or maybe they'll say anything because they hate the SOB.
You are probably aware there are many ways to apply gas, and if you want to make it look like it was Assad, you'd do it right after a bombing run.
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Maybe the U.S. dropped the WMD's, Is that what you think?
No. It could have been Assad, although I don't know why he'd use it when he has successfully killed 400 000 people with bombs and guns. Why use gas to kill 80, when he knows it would raise an uproar? It could have been someone who was motivated to draw US into the fight.
Had the last President backed up his words with actions, showing he was serious about what he said things might be different now.
yeah sure, when Obama wanted to do more and asked Congress to approve it they wouldn't even take a vote on it and actually threatened him with impeachment
Trump said he saw some pictures, and his emotions were stirred, and the next thing we know the missiles were in the air. Where is the evidence? Clearly there was no the time to conduct any kind of examination of evidence.
You keep saying this. What would you consider to be "evidence"?
We know that chemical weapons were used. Two agents - chlorine and sarin. We know this from paramedics on first response and doctors at hospitals treating the victims. Everyone agrees - even Russia - that chemical weapons were used. It's a question of by whom.
Russia claims it was rebel stockpiles hit by Syrian bombs. You don't make sarin in a cave with pots and pans. There is no evidence that the "rebels" have the ability to make it and no evidence that they possess it. If rebels had stockpiles we would have been seeing these releases regularly over the past several years and we would certainly have seen cases of them using it in their own attacks.
We have the flight paths of the jets that left the air base, bombed the city, and returned to base.
I think our mistake in bombing the airbase was in not hitting the suspected chemical weapons storage units. The fear was in causing chemical weapons to be released and kill more innocents. (Which would prove 100% that Syria possessed chemical weapons.) I think the risk of that would be very low. Most of the chemicals would have been consumed in the blast. Sarin dissipates quickly which is why no nearby towns were affected. The air base is not near population centers. The only casualties would have been personnel on the base. But those might have included Russians.
You keep saying this. What would you consider to be "evidence"?
Anything that proves the accused is guilty of committing the act.
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You don't make sarin in a cave with pots and pans. There is no evidence that the "rebels" have the ability to make it and no evidence that they possess it.
Japanese cultists made sarin and then spread it by poking holes in plastic bags, and also by leaking it out from a moving van.....
Anything that proves the accused is guilty of committing the act.
Japanese cultists made sarin and then spread it by poking holes in plastic bags, and also by leaking it out from a moving van.....
You've gotten evidence, you choose to ignore or just not believe it. Why is that?
Japanese cultists live in a country that's not been bombed back into the stone age. They have access to stores,internet,technical people,books etc.
Not a good comparison.
Message sent by the U.S. to the world - stop using chemical weapons.
The delivery of the message with regards to congressional approval, 100% assurance who used the chemical weapons, etc, can be questioned, but the message still needed to be sent. There were a few deaths (collateral damage) with the U.S. strike on the airstrip, but nothing like what the recent chemical attack death toll was.
I don't care what Trump said during campaigning - all politicians say things to get elected, ALL. A move was made, now let's see where this all goes.
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