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Old 04-21-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
guess what? Hawaii, is part of the 50 States that make up The United States.

Besides, you can't be conclusive in who is and who is not and what place is and what place is not at risk from Terrorist? Unless you are one among those whom decide where to attack you are just blowing smoke in the air. Federal Laws apply in Hawaii, just like they apply in any of the other states.
This was never about terrorists, if it was those would never have been the countries on the receiving end of a ban. Trump's actions make us less safe not more.

 
Old 04-21-2017, 02:46 PM
 
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No the president is not a god he does not have the right to do it whatever he wants, good on the judge for blocking Donald duck. Maybe if he spent less time on vacation and more time working he might come up with a bill and have congress vote on it. Instead of just writing eo's and holding them up like he just passed his test
He DOES have the right to block immigration however. Thats part of the problem, people keep referring to that without understanding that he cant do it on the basis of religion. IE that power is not without limits.
 
Old 04-21-2017, 02:46 PM
 
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Regardless, Hawaii is still an island thousands of miles away. It's amazing that a judge sitting there could block the POTUS Executive Orders that affect the whole country.
Bumpkin White Trash? Well, with that I can't argue...
Why is it amazing? A federal judge in any state has this power. What makes a federal judge in Hawaii any different from one in Maryland? Or Washington state? There's literally nothing amazing about it if you know how the federal courts work. You'd think the AG of the US would be aware of this process...

Sessions' comment was in bad form.
 
Old 04-21-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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Someone should teach Sessions that Hawaii is a state.
 
Old 04-21-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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Someone should teach Sessions that Hawaii is a state.
And give him the low down on "checks and balances."
 
Old 04-21-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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This is what Sessions assumes the whole of Hawaii is.


 
Old 04-21-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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Get real.. this judge is the shadow government guy, Obomb us went to school with and happened to visit Hawaii to get it done.... Obomb us the loser who has so much racial baggage he drags the entire country down. Obomb us is the biggest racist and bigot in the country.
You are as insidious as the stuff you are posting. The biggest Issue with Racism came from the RIGHT WINGERS, REPUBLICAN AND TEA PARTY, WHICH IS ALL ELEMENTS OF THE REPUBLICAN SYSTEM.
This is one time you won't get to flip the dirt of Republican manner and mode and try and blame it on Obama or any other liberal minded human being. The Racism is generated and promoted primarily from the Republican system, it elected and those who place these race bias people in office. The WHOLE WORLD, knows of the pledge taken by republican and the rise of the Tea party, the minute they saw a black man take the office of President.

Damn, when will the segment of the population who is racist arse white people ever own up to their dirt!!!!! This is not the 1940's, 50's and 60's where Racist Right Wingers can create their madness and blame it on someone else, and get away with it. Liberal Minded Diversity Respecting White people no longer are swept up in the madness of the right wing racist and their vile concepts.

You probably need to chase another scheme, because that one does not fly !!!! The work Obama did "helped ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE !!!!! What we have now is a racist driven bigot in the White House with a Cabinet that Reflects his race bias and bigotry, and many share the arrogant belligerence that he is noted for.

Many many white people are no longer intimidated and afraid of the racist whites and the bigoted groups that are part of their ethnic group. They don't run from these racist, and they are no longer playing passive silence for fear of reprisals. It is well known that Racist Bigots for decades, would attack liberal minded whites, try to fire them from jobs, attack them in the community, and do anything they could to attack the liberal minded whites who did not submit to become dominated by the racist groups.

For Centuries liberal minded whites had to be careful because they knew the vile mentality of the racist whites would harm them as quick as they would harm and attack minorities or various religions they had their prejudices against.

The very worst thing in America today, is the Racist and Bigoted Mad people who aspire to the Right Winger Ideology. They are the Urban Terrorist who have Century old history of being the domestic terrorist in America.

They are the number one force used by the Wealthy bigots to promote racism, that led to the exodus of Industry, the collisions of greed that invaded the banking system and the Corporate Madness, that has used prejudice to hold on to their roles as "Greed Chasers and Money Gatherers"....
More and more young white people are now more aware than ever, at the insult they suffer because of the racist among their ethnicity. They no longer want to be associated with any of the racist and bigoted mad and insane groups of Racist people.

I know a great many white people, who want no part of racist ignorance, they don't care for nor do they want to be associated with racism or those who practice it. This includes men and woman, who detest the bigoted racist.

The women are no longer fearful of the race bias white males, who try to control their lives, beat them and tell them who to date and who to marry. Women have come to learn more about the rights they were denied for centuries, and they know that denial was done by bigoted white males, and most of them know it was promoted by the wealthy white males, who have for centuries tried to treat white women as a 'novelty pleasure toy", "less than a person", "denied her the right to be recognized as a person, which denied her the right to vote, and continues to try and marginalize her as a sex object, for his whim and fancy. They know these wealthy men, set up and made examples of disrespecting, using and abusing women and treating the like pleasure toys was promoted by wealthy white men as examples to poorer white men to follow.

Women are becoming to learn more of how to accept themselves without getting silicone injections trying to gain acceptance of such men, they no longer are chasing down getting face lifts because the men used her up and now want to trade her in for a younger model, or beat her because she won't submit and act like a piece of property he owns, and then leaves her with a mass of babies when she refuses to play puppet for him or submit to him using her and treating her like she is a disposable sex toy.

She is not unaware of these men who are angry that they can't dominate her, and she is far more alert to the men would rather kill her than respect her as being her own individual, women are becoming more aware of how to spot the abuser, and they certainly now are much more alert to the fact, that his obsessive mentality has laid out a history of him killing women, her children, her family and going about killing innocent people, when he gets anguished that he can't dominate and possess her.
Some of white women have chosen to go to other women in higher numbers than ever before, rather than trust that her own ethnic men will respect her and treat her as an individual person, and not see her only for his sexual antics. They are tired of being raped, seeing other women 'dismembered' and even seeing her own kids become the victims of sexual abuse. The awareness is no wide spread on college campuses, of women who now are more aware of whom is their abuser, and whom they have to protect themselves from.

His money, family titles and fictional status can no longer keep her blind to the truths, nor make her stay and accept the abuses, and he can no longer stop her from earning her own money and taking care of herself.
She is now more aware than ever, at the type of men who become violent when he realize he can't "own" her, and he can't control her, and she knows now that his history has been to kill what he can't own, and to abuse what he can't control. She is not in acceptance to play into his game.

These women are far from the level of stupid some men think them to be. Some are smart enough now, to take all his money in divorce because she knows that is what he values most, and when she goes to court, she takes every penny she can, because she knows that is what he cares about most in life, money and claiming ownership of woman.

Women's Rights of Person, her Civic Rights and her Social Rights, she is claiming them for herself, not waiting on white men to ration it out to her, like she is something he owns that he can issue her allowances of rights as if he controls her and what is convenient only for him and his benefit.

Now when he comes and talk to her like she's some sex toy, or as if her whole role is life is to wait on him to play his manipulative or treat her like a sex object seduction game, she takes his butt to court and file the harassment suits.
She had to wait for 100's of years for blacks to get the Civil Rights Act passed, but she knew it was of benefit to her as well, so when it passed she got on board, to use it to fight for her rights to be employed, to be paid a fair and equal wage, and to be given opportunity without bias and discrimination against her gender, and she will continue to fight for her rights to be an equal human being.

Some may still fall in like and play the old game and be submissive as if she is owned, but after a level of abuse, she too will awaken and many do.

Even those men who now go and chase after Asian women because he thinks they are docile, quickly find out that fictional he chases is no whom she is, and he is shocked to learn that she was never docile, nor was she some puppet and she certainly was never willing be "owned'.

Women know now they made a mistake in supporting Trump and they are aware of the games that were played against Hillary, and they can see now the bias and bigotry and gender prejudice they engaged to slander her endlessly. They now vow, to never again be duped and hoodwinked in such ways. The more women stand up the more we will see Republican's fall like dominoes.
Women watched Trump repeal the right for them to be paid equal, they watched the disaster of a health care plan the Republican pushed, and they now are with opened eyes to be on guard against the gender prejudice. They will find ways to bond with minorities and other liberal minded white women and men, and they are going to stand up and when they do, they will knock down the Republican Establishment. They will expose the pretense of Christians some pretend to be, and they will expose them. They now are aware that one can't claim to be a christian and promote racial prejudice and gender prejudice. it has been a hard and long struggle for women, and they know how hard Obama fought for women rights. they also understand far better the damages that racism did to minorities and how repressive and oppressive it was to minorities, because they experienced some of it based on their own gender. Nothing can make them 'unlearn these truths.... nor make them revert back to accept such disregard of themselves as persons.
 
Old 04-21-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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He DOES have the right to block immigration however. Thats part of the problem, people keep referring to that without understanding that he cant do it on the basis of religion. IE that power is not without limits.
He didn't block it based on religion. 45 other countries that are majority Muslim were not blocked. Christians and non religious from the same 6 blocked countries are also not allowed to immigrate as well as Muslims. The 6 countries blocked were the same 6 countries Obama identified as the source of terrorism in either in 2015 or 2016.

So the hot take that trump is banning Muslims is patently false in every sense of the word.

I'll be waiting for your acknowledgment of defeat in this matter.
 
Old 04-21-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Interesting:

One more time, for the Stupid Liberals, here is the US Code Justifying Trump’s Executive Order – Shenandoah
 
Old 04-21-2017, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Sessions should be working on his appeal, today was the deadline for filing and the hearing is planned for the first week in May in the Maryland Appeals Court.
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