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And this pervasive attitude is where the problem lies. So if I own my own company I'm supposed to offer a worker part ownership? This is insane. His compensation is his pay and benefits. If he wants to own a company, start his own. This is precisely why Americans hire immigrants, because so many young Americans are so damn entitled. They think they should be given high salaries, opportunity for ownership for doing a job that others can just as easily do. I supervise 35 Americans and there are probably 5 that have a good work ethic. They are all making around 50K, do not have any education beyond high school, routinely call out sick and act as if they are the hardest working people in the world. They're delusional.
Maybe you're delusional for assuming that $50k/yr entitles you to whatever arbitrary standards you have. That workers will put up with any amount of abuse or working hours to work for someone like you.
That's the point here, labor exists in a market where you bid on it. If you lose the bidding war then you end up with whatever pond scum is left. The world doesn't owe you anything, it doesn't owe you X workers at Y cost who behave in Z fashion.
These attitudes are the ones that claim they deserve an enormous wage but the work they produce isn't even worth the smallest wage. I have worked many levels of employment and it is always the same, the same attitude that complains about wage is the one that isn't worth hiring anyway. While they stand around complaining, the real workers are too busy getting things done (and they are the ones who move up or move on and excel eventually while the other is still sitting around complaining about their pay).
The value your employees produce is driven less by how hard they work and more by your business model.
If your business model is so flimsy that you can only afford to hire people that upset you, that's your own fault for not providing enough value to your customers. You're not entitled to "hard workers" at "whatever price you feel like paying."
Maybe you're delusional for assuming that $50k/yr entitles you to whatever arbitrary standards you have. That workers will put up with any amount of abuse or working hours to work for someone like you.
That's the point here, labor exists in a market where you bid on it. If you lose the bidding war then you end up with whatever pond scum is left. The world doesn't owe you anything, it doesn't owe you X workers at Y cost who behave in Z fashion.
Skilled labor has been turned into a commodity by the global economy.
Craftsmanship and pride went out the window years ago, for the lowest price and a breathing body.
Remember, you get what you pay for and cheap is never good, while good is never cheap.
Cool story, bro...but nearly all the landscapers and tree-cutters in my area are American. I wonder if those same kids would pick strawberries for 12 hours a day and minimum wage?
If California would just go back to the guest worker program it wouldn't be a problem. But no, they like slave labor. It saves them money. You're naive if you think they really have a bleeding heart for Mexicans.
Mexicans want the guest worker program also. It's safer, cleaner, regulated and they don't get crapped on and abused. Fancy that.
It's amazing how much hatred and ridicule a person can receive by the left just by hiring 4 young Americans that want to work, instead of a few illegals. Who would have thought
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Very good! I only hire Americans. This is not the time to be hiring foreigners.
And this attitude is what I find so disgusting about this thread. What exactly is a foreigner? Someone with brown skin? Someone who doesn't speak English? Someone who was born here from parents born in another country? Someone here on a green card? And why doesn't someone here on a green card deserve a job anyway? What is foreign exactly? Just because a person is blonde haired and blue eyed doesn't mean they aren't foreigners. Just because they're high schoolers doesn't mean they aren't foreigners either. And why is it not the time to be hiring foreigners? I don't understand why someone of you have such a biased attitude toward hiring certain candidates.
You can't have it both ways. Either a person is the best candidate for the job or they aren't. Foreign doesn't even factor in. If an American is stupid or lazy, they don't deserve the job just because they are American. Think of the old quota system and how many people were against it because people of certain ethnicities were selected to fill positions based on their race, sex, or some other quality independent of merit. This is exactly what you are proposing in reverse.
And this attitude is what I find so disgusting about this thread. What exactly is a foreigner? Someone with brown skin? Someone who doesn't speak English? Someone who was born here from parents born in another country? Someone here on a green card? And why doesn't someone here on a green card deserve a job anyway? What is foreign exactly? Just because a person is blonde haired and blue eyed doesn't mean they aren't foreigners. Just because they're high schoolers doesn't mean they aren't foreigners either. And why is it not the time to be hiring foreigners? I don't understand why someone of you have such a biased attitude toward hiring certain candidates.
You can't have it both ways. Either a person is the best candidate for the job or they aren't. Foreign doesn't even factor in. If an American is stupid or lazy, they don't deserve the job just because they are American. Think of the old quota system and how many people were against it because people of certain ethnicities were selected to fill positions based on their race, sex, or some other quality independent of merit. This is exactly what you are proposing in reverse.
Short answer is that illegals shouldn't be here to begin with and shouldn't be working here period. They broke the law entering this country. They don't have a right to work here as a gardener or brain surgeon. That's a good start.
Secondly, everyone needs to stop confusing illegals with foreigners. They are two very different things.
Very good! I only hire Americans. This is not the time to be hiring foreigners.
I Assume you're checking the kitchens of every restaurant and market you go to as well then?
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