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Once upon a time in America (and pretty much everywhere), women were controlled by the constraints put on them by men. Lack of education, no vote, couldn’t own property and in fact was considered to be property with no rights of her own. Not even when it came to selecting the man she married in most instances. And if she was divorced her husband retained all the money or property she brought into the marriage. That was systematic oppression by men who 100% controlled the laws.
There are no current laws that force anyone to marry. If they do, they do so willingly and in full knowledge that means a 50/50 partnership in all assets and debts acquired during the marriage. And those laws were written by men. Go complain to them if you feel oppressed (with 2 Ps) by the laws they wrote and passed. Leave women out of it.
That collection of women studies material has huge gaps in it regarding sacrificial manhood and female mating preferences, besides it was not materialized in all its entirety anywhere.
Stop with the lies already.
Marriage. Two become one. From that point on all assets are marital assets all debt, marital debt. This is a know constant. The wife owns 100%, the husband owns 100%. If the marriage ends the wife half is 50%, the husbands half is 50%. Simple math.
There are actually a lot of questions asked and that is where simple math becomes calculus and negotiations begin
There are absolutely no proof that women marry men who make more money. Poor men marry everyday and people tend to marry others in their social circle.
78% of married women work full time.
But stupid is as stupid does.
Men tend to marry women based on her appearance and prefer women to be dependent and subservient.
When you buy a pet instead of marrying a mate you are stuck with the responsibility of caring for your pet.
You are intentionally misleading, There are two separate things here. The Law and woman' rationalization of asset splitting. A woman just like a man are rationalization machines, and she must come up with a good excuse in her head why she's entitled to 50% of man' wealth if she, for example, was a student on her husbands payroll, did little at home, and had no kids with him. That two become one bs means nothing these days because two can split easily to become one again with somebody else for who knows how many times in row. That is not a legal/moral argument it is religious leftover from the days gone by, it is not applicable anymore even to outspokenly religious crowd.
Because marriage is not what it used to be, and divorce laws imply it is 19th century outside.
Marriage is not what it used to be. How so??
And I guess you’ve never heard of the common law doctrine known as coverture which allowed a married woman’s legal identity to be subsumed in her husband’s. It recognized husband and wife as one person in the law and that person was represented by the husband. This meant a woman could not enter into a contract or write a valid will without her husband’s consent. A husband also gained rights to his wife’s property, both real and personal. If she left, she left penniless. That was divorce in the 19th century.
I guess when you used to hold all the cards, only getting half of them feels like oppression.
Marriage used to be a survival partnership for overwhelming majority of people, one time per life time partnership shot for most. It was critical for a man and a woman to work together to just live another year. If survival did not inspire a couple, the priests were standing by with hellfire stories. Today marriage is mostly feel good, sex-procreation partnership while good feelings last. Neither party needs marriage to survive, the stories of hellfire scare no one, more exactly most religious denominations adjusted their marriage/divorce doctrines not to push away paying customers who might seek God' blessing to break/create a partnership.
Once upon a time in America (and pretty much everywhere), women were controlled by the constraints put on them by men. Lack of education, no vote, couldn’t own property and in fact was considered to be property with no rights of her own. Not even when it came to selecting the man she married in most instances. And if she was divorced her husband retained all the money or property she brought into the marriage. That was systematic oppression by men who 100% controlled the laws.
There are no current laws that force anyone to marry. If they do, they do so willingly and in full knowledge that means a 50/50 partnership in all assets and debts acquired during the marriage. And those laws were written by men. Go complain to them if you feel oppressed (with 2 Ps) by the laws they wrote and passed. Leave women out of it.
I dont live in the USA.
If you know anything about history, you would know that the right to vote, get an education and own property were things men also had to fight for, in some cases for 1000 years.
For example, England got its first parliament in 1215, yet it took millions of dead men in WW1, for the UK to finally get its act together and realise that non-land holding men should get a vote.
Like most things coverture laws were two-sided, the man was totally accountable for his wife's actions. If his wife committed a crime or ran up debts she could not pay, it was the man who was thrown in prison or declared bankrupt.
And I guess you’ve never heard of the common law doctrine known as coverture which allowed a married woman’s legal identity to be subsumed in her husband’s. It recognized husband and wife as one person in the law and that person was represented by the husband. This meant a woman could not enter into a contract or write a valid will without her husband’s consent. A husband also gained rights to his wife’s property, both real and personal. If she left, she left penniless. That was divorce in the 19th century.
I guess when you used to hold all the cards, only getting half of them feels like oppression.
Actually it was not the law back in the days. Even adulterous wife could take back what she brought in a marriage. If she brought nothing in she got nothing out. It was the only case a woman got nothing out in divorce. Today adultery is rewarded big. Free at last. Yes becoming one implied male leadership back in the days. Today becoming one ostentatiously means common decision making, but in practice it mean women manipulating hell out of men, getting what they want, and losing respect for him in the process with more to come.
Marriage used to be a survival partnership for overwhelming majority of people, one time per life time partnership shot for most. It was critical for a man and a woman to work together to just live another year. If survival did not inspire a couple, the priests were standing by with hellfire stories. Today marriage is mostly feel good, sex-procreation partnership while good feelings last. Neither party needs marriage to survive, the stories of hellfire scare no one, more exactly most religious denominations adjusted their marriage/divorce doctrines not to push away paying customers who might seek God' blessing to break/create a partnership.
And so? Are we supposed to be sad that crappy marriages that persisted for survival and/or religious BS no longer have to be endured? That both men and women have a choice to marry or not or to stay married or not?
Actually it was not the law back in the days. Even adulterous wife could take back what she brought in a marriage. If she brought nothing in she got nothing out. It was the only case a woman got nothing out in divorce. Today adultery is rewarded big. Free at last. Yes becoming one implied male leadership back in the days. Today becoming one ostentatiously means common decision making, but in practice it mean women manipulating hell out of men, getting what they want, and losing respect for him in the process with more to come.
So much bitterness. Sorry you’ve been hurt, but stop conflating your experiences into what all men experience and what all women do.
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