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Old 05-18-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Senator Collins is on Morning Joe now, and she said when she was an intern during Watergate, amidst of all the controversy things were getting done. However, this current administration is not showing leadership on what it wants to get done. There hasn't been any policy proposals for the legislature to work on. Just controversy after controversy.
What you are quoting someone said on a morning show is very different from the title of your thread. You asked how they compare, not how they are being handled. Well, at this stage and I know this is hard for you as a lib to accept, there is no proof anything was done that would lead to impeachment or anything else. All we have is accusation by unknown sources. Now, other than that, much is the same: of course in the beginning no one wanted to believe the Nixon administration had done anything wrong. Isn't this human nature? BTW the administration has gotten a lot of things done and if the democrats wouldn't block everything for the sake of playing a grammar school playground game we might be able to get more accomplished. You don't think Trump taking his trip out of the country is a nothing?

May I ask you, what was getting done while Clinton was involved in the Monica scandal and eventually impeached for lying under oath?

 
Old 05-18-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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BTW the administration has gotten a lot of things done and if the democrats wouldn't block everything for the sake of playing a grammar school playground game we might be able to get more accomplished.
You can't blame things not getting done on the Democrats, the Republicans have full control of DC. There is a blessing and a curse to being in the majority, one of the curses is that when things don't go how you planned, the blame is on you.

The days of Republicans blaming everything under the sun on Democrats needs to stop. The old "Thanks Obama" line is tired and old. Republicans are in charge of everything, they own what comes out of DC.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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Trivia question for those who were more familiar with the H20gate period ------


What was the official name of the Nixon reelection committee?


For those who don't know, it really had quite the initials and name.
"Committee to Re-Elect the President."


CREEP
 
Old 05-18-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Pure garbage!

Donald Trump hasn't broken any laws, and has not acted in any manner that could be even closely compared to Watergate.
you are right on and even yesterday experts in law were saying it is very difficult to prove obstruction of justice. Just leave it to the left, and the left media, they will not let this thing die. It may well backfire on the Democrats.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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you are right on and even yesterday experts in law were saying it is very difficult to prove obstruction of justice. Just leave it to the left, and the left media, they will not let this thing die. It may well backfire on the Democrats.
What should the left let die? Even you can admit there is a ton of smoke flying into the air on this? right?

If there is, not one American should let this die. This isn't a party thing anymore, if the POTUS is hiding something from the American people, every one of use should be concerned.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 09:02 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Nixon knew the law and knew full what he was doing. Trump is clueless he's doing anything wrong.

Nixon thought he, as president, could break the law and get away with it. Trump thinks he can do anything he wants.

The Republicans eventually convinced Nixon to resign. I don't see anyone accomplishing that with Trump so he may just end up getting indicted.

Trump v Nixon: subtract 50 IQ points and add twitter - there you have Trump.

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Yes, controversy has been the production of Democrats ever since Trump won. The left was so sure that Hillary would win and they were wrong.

Democrats have been on a mission to INVALIDATE the votes of millions of people since election day and if they think the constant fear and controversy mongering are winning people over to the left and they're wrong again. The liberal media and Democrats are controversy factories.
Trump's problems have always been of his own making. Republicans control ALL aspects of the government now.


The special prosecutor has broad bi-partisan support.


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You can't blame things not getting done on the Democrats, the Republicans have full control of DC. There is a blessing and a curse to being in the majority, one of the curses is that when things don't go how you planned, the blame is on you.

The days of Republicans blaming everything under the sun on Democrats needs to stop. The old "Thanks Obama" line is tired and old. Republicans are in charge of everything, they own what comes out of DC.

Thank you. Well stated.

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you are right on and even yesterday experts in law were saying it is very difficult to prove obstruction of justice. Just leave it to the left, and the left media, they will not let this thing die. It may well backfire on the Democrats.
The addition of a special prosecutor was very good news for Republicans (not sure about Trump) as all of this endless speculation will stop and the Republicans can now actually try to accomplish something.


Trump has 9 days out of the country. IF he manages not to ***k it up ~ he now gets a little reprieve.


IF he has done nothing wrong - he has nothing to worry about. OH - and he needs to stop tweeting. Perpetual victimhood is NOT a good look for a president.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 09:07 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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US Constitution, Article 1, Section 9: "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

Emolument: the returns arising from office or employment usually in the form of compensation or perquisites (Merriam-Webster)

For a very complete explanation on how the current President has violated Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution (caution: big words are used), see:

President Trump Has No Defense Under the Foreign Emoluments Clause

Obstruction of justice: n. An attempt to interfere with the administration of the courts, the judicial system or law enforcement officers, including threatening witnesses, improper conversations with jurors, hiding evidence, or interfering with an arrest. Such activity is a crime.

It's up to the courts (or Congress) to decide if the current President obstructed justice when he:

1. Asked then-FBI director James Comey to drop the agency’s investigation into his former national security adviser Michael Flynn; and

2. Told NBC’s Lester Holt he asked Comey whether he himself was being investigated; and

3. The fact that he sought the assurance when he was deciding whether to keep Comey at the FBI.

And there are probably other instances of conduct that could rise to the level of obstruction of justice. All of this in a remarkably short span of time. The current President is sure to take up a lot of space in the history books.
Not worthy of a reply. Trump has not violated any laws, nor has he obstructed justice. And you are spreading lies and rumors.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 09:10 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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you are right on and even yesterday experts in law were saying it is very difficult to prove obstruction of justice. Just leave it to the left, and the left media, they will not let this thing die. It may well backfire on the Democrats.
It will backfire on the Democrats, and it's going to backfire BIG TIME.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Trivia question for those who were more familiar with the H20gate period ------


What was the official name of the Nixon reelection committee?


For those who don't know, it really had quite the initials and name.
It was quite appropriate!
 
Old 05-18-2017, 09:13 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Nixon knew the law and knew full what he was doing. Trump is clueless he's doing anything wrong.

Nixon thought he, as president, could break the law and get away with it. Trump thinks he can do anything he wants.

The Republicans eventually convinced Nixon to resign. I don't see anyone accomplishing that with Trump so he may just end up getting indicted.
I would say that they are both the same big bunch of nothing. I am willing to bet most presidents have done worse things than either Nixon or Trump have done. They had just not threatened someone who is selfish enough to upset the whole country going after their enemy. Law and order that Trump stands for is the enemy to those who want to keep control of the economy and cheap labor. It's all about money!

I watched the entire Watergate mess. It was a zoo. And no, I did not vote for Nixon.

Companies do not want the American people to be in charge of their own government. Period!
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