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I was a little kid when Watergate took place. But I saw an interview with Woodward and Bernstein here recently where they said that the slow, methodical reporting that they did, trying to keep things quiet, etc - could NEVER happen today. Once one story was printed today - every internet outlet, every blogger, every online journalist would be all over it.
Things don't slowly unfold in the digital age with the proliferation of social media.
Nixon had been in office for years before anyone took the Watergate break-in seriously.
As I recall, there was more concern about the Vietnam war, Mai Lai massacre, Kent State murders... than about whether the Republicans burgled the Democrats for campaign secrets.
The burglary was in June 1972; the investigation began almost immediately.
My Lai took place during the Johnson Administration, although the war was still going on and certainly was an issue in Nixon's reelection campaign in 1972 .
Further, the burglary itself, while the topic of the initial investigation, was not the reason that Nixon and his henchmen were in trouble; it was the willful cover-up that got them in Constitutional hot water.
Senator Collins is on Morning Joe now, and she said when she was an intern during Watergate, amidst of all the controversy things were getting done. However, this current administration is not showing leadership on what it wants to get done. There hasn't been any policy proposals for the legislature to work on. Just controversy after controversy.
I don't think you had to be around for Watergate to understand how totally different this is.
I'm guessing the main factors are:
-Watergate started very small.
-Republicans weren't so insanely loyal to the party, but actually had some sense of decency and responsibility.
-In pre-internet days, there was actual news restricted to respected sources, so less hysteria.
-Nixon's criminality was primarily restricted to his illegalities regarding staying in office; Trump's potential criminality is far more sprawling, and continuing.
You're right, though, that Trump's administration has passed no substantial legislation, although it's been almost six months. It's a reminder that although Republicans fought Obama endlessly, they never offered much themselves. They had years to come up with a good health-care alternative, but were still floundering.
Perhaps another factor is that these day Republicans politicians, and their high-end supporters, may possibly not have any ideas other than cutting taxes to funnel yet more money to the rich.
Americans are much more concerned, and much more skeptical of Trump,
No, they aren't. Only the Fake News media is concerned. Normal Americans know there is nothing there, and that the Fake News media has invented nearly all of these "matters" out of thin air, and that one after the other is turning out false.
Normal Americans are also learning from this, that the Fake News media can't be trusted, and is not worth using as an information source.
There isn't even a crime here! How can it be 50 times worse than Watergate where there actually was a crime?
So far, in this case, they still haven't found any crime that has been committed! But they've hired more lawyers in search of something.
You keep on ignoring the obvious, Watergate wasn't a crime until several months into the ivestigation. This investigation will probably last at least a year maybe longer and is much more complicated.
No, they aren't. Only the Fake News media is concerned. Normal Americans know there is nothing there, and that the Fake News media has invented nearly all of these "matters" out of thin air, and that one after the other is turning out false.
Normal Americans are also learning from this, that the Fake News media can't be trusted, and is not worth using as an information source.
Trumpies are delusional.
<<Following Comey’s appearance before Congress last week, an Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll shows 68% of Americans are at least moderately concerned about the possibility that Trump or his campaign associates had inappropriate ties to Russia. Almost half of Americans say they’re very concerned. Only three in 10 say they’re not that concerned.>>
<<A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted after President Trump’s firing of FBI Director James Comey indicates that 78 percent of Americans would prefer that an independent commission or special prosecutor investigate Russia’s involvement in the 2016 presidential election.>>
Senator Collins is on Morning Joe now, and she said when she was an intern during Watergate, amidst of all the controversy things were getting done. However, this current administration is not showing leadership on what it wants to get done. There hasn't been any policy proposals for the legislature to work on. Just controversy after controversy.
No comparison.
Crime with watergate, no crime here.
Watergate is comparable to hillary's crimes that comey said no prosecutor would prosecute. That along with bill meeting lynch on the tarmac make watergate look like a parking ticket.
Trump is doing fine given the all out war and constant law suits and false charges.
You keep on ignoring the obvious, Watergate wasn't a crime until several months into the iNvestigation. This investigation will probably last at least a year maybe longer and is much more complicated.
A burglary somehow isn't a crime? I never heard of that before. The obstruction was when the burglars were found in possession of about $10,000 in sequentially numbered $100 bills, which quickly traced to CREEP. I challenge you, what is the equivalent incident to a burglary in the dead of night that is at issue here?
There was sort of a denial stage with Watergate at the beginning when everyone felt like there was something wrong but was trying to believe that it wasn't... and then the coverup started coming to light and that sealed the deal. What did he know and when did he know it? I think we are at that point with Russia-gate... The coverup and leaks and dirty laundry and flat-out lies and contradictions are undermining any credibility that Trump has or his minions. The Mueller investigation is just getting started and Trump would give anything to shut it down. He is stupid enough to do it and that will seal his fate. As was pointed out in other threads, even his lawyers are getting lawyers...they know what a mess this is.
Just saw the movie.
This one is better
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