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Old 06-30-2017, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty View Post
The Russia Prove is now Dead.

CNN & the NY Times have completely embarrassed themselves in the fake reporting on it.

Trump has rick rolled the deranged, Democrats, leftists, and the truly unhinged to go on about Mika Brezenski endlessly. This speaks for itself about Russia.
You are Rambling, Again.
Deep Breaths..............

 
Old 06-30-2017, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
You are Rambling, Again.
Deep Breaths..............
The Russia prove?

What do trumpies think Mueller is doing all day? He just hired yet another prosecutor, this one from Preet Bharara ' s office. Why does he need so many prosecutors if there's no story?
 
Old 06-30-2017, 10:02 PM
 
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The Russia prove?

What do trumpies think Mueller is doing all day? He just hired yet another prosecutor, this one from Preet Bharara ' s office. Why does he need so many prosecutors if there's no story?
Shhhhhhh, ya have to wait before scaring the children with the end of the play, let it come as a surprise.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 02:11 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by OnOurWayHome View Post
The Russia prove?

What do trumpies think Mueller is doing all day? He just hired yet another prosecutor, this one from Preet Bharara ' s office. Why does he need so many prosecutors if there's no story?
Shhhhhhh, ya have to wait before scaring the children with the end of the play, let it come as a surprise.
I'm no Trumpster but I'm not a hater either. Mueller is making himself an institution. People in his shoes never stop until they bag a prize.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
It took years for the evidence on Nixon to come out. And it could take years for Trump.
The initial evidence was that a breakin occurred and an investigation ensued. Eventually it was proven that Nixon tried to cover it up.

This time around, there is evidence that Clinton lost the election and she blamed Russian interference, which occurred on the same level in just about every other election since the cold war. Only the technology used by Russia has changed. No evidence of collusion by anyone in either party as far as the election goes, but Clinton has more evidence that she was in bed with some Russians while SOS. No evidence of Trump wrong doing.

The way we treat candidates for higher office resulted in Trump vs Clinton. I can't imaging it getting any better in the future if this campaign against Trump continues without evidence. We will get what we deserve.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I remember Watergate very well.

I voted for Nixon and shortly after his re-election, the rumors were flying about the "minor break-in at the DNC."

From there, it developed slowly. Much more slowly than Russiagate is moving. For a long time, like today's Trumplings, I thought it was a lot of smoke with no flames. Seemed to me the Dems were just being sore losers and that was really all there was to it. I never expected it to grow into the major scandal that it turned out to be.

But as the investigation deepened, more and more things came to light and then it was becoming clear that it was about a lot in addition to the "3rd rate burglary." Still, Nixon wasn't nearly as obsessed with that scandal as tRump is with his. Nixon continued to function and get things done, in spite of the troubles. As we can all see, tRump and the GOP are almost completely paralyzed.

Russiagate is moving at supersonic speed in comparison. And the underlying activity appears to be MUCH more serious than it was back in 1972.

What looks very different this time is this:

Nixon was undone politically and was forced to resign, but that was pretty much the end of it for him. Several of his close aides did end up in prison for their crimes, however.

Whatever tRump is hiding/covering up seems like it could be MUCH more serious. He's scared as hell and acting as guilty as the puppy that peed on the carpet. He's completely consumed. Maybe the activity that he's concealing is serious enough to not only remove him from the White House, but could be so nasty as to topple his family business, as well. And his top aides are scrambling to get high caliber legal counsel. They'll likely need it, from all indications.

Russiagate has a MUCH more ominous feel to it.

I expect Trumplings will react by poo-pooing the whole thing. That'll just make the impact more severe when it finally registers with them.

That's just my take on it. I'm no more than an old geezer who lived through it then and is now a very interested observer. Like I say often in this forum, tRump is very entertaining. Call it Schadenfreude.

As they say, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes."
 
Old 07-01-2017, 09:10 AM
 
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Senator Collins is on Morning Joe now, and she said when she was an intern during Watergate, amidst of all the controversy things were getting done. However, this current administration is not showing leadership on what it wants to get done. There hasn't been any policy proposals for the legislature to work on. Just controversy after controversy.
Short version.

In Watergate we KNEW a crime had been committed.

It was NOT the crime per say but the coverup.

The Russia probe.

To date, we (the public) do NOT know of any specific crime.

We DO know that trump was NOT being investigated up till the time comey was fired.

We DO know, said by the top Intelligence community leaders, that they don't know of ANY vote that was altered of "influenced" by the Russians.

We DO know that there was NO hacking, Just Podesta being stupid and giving out the password.

We DO know the collusion between the Hillary campaign and the DNC.

We DO know that certain American citizens were "unmasked" by the obama admin.

We do know that many of these requested to be "unmasked" were turned down by the Intelligence community

We DO know these names were "leaked" by very high officials in the gov't.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That 17 agencies line is used by so many democrats and even intelligence agency heads. Now MSM is making corrections to that line. Not sure why now. How does it matter even if it is a fake news. It is not that everything they published is true. Most of the talk about collusion and impeachment is happening on left side media. Opinions from law professors, constitutions experts are completely different.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 09:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
Short version.

In Watergate we KNEW a crime had been committed.

It was NOT the crime per say but the coverup.

The Russia probe.

To date, we (the public) do NOT know of any specific crime.

We DO know that trump was NOT being investigated up till the time comey was fired.

We DO know, said by the top Intelligence community leaders, that they don't know of ANY vote that was altered of "influenced" by the Russians.

We DO know that there was NO hacking, Just Podesta being stupid and giving out the password.

We DO know the collusion between the Hillary campaign and the DNC.

We DO know that certain American citizens were "unmasked" by the obama admin.

We do know that many of these requested to be "unmasked" were turned down by the Intelligence community

We DO know these names were "leaked" by very high officials in the gov't.
Don't you mean the Trumping Version?


Hold on to that thought for as long as you can.
 
Old 07-01-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
Short version.

In Watergate we KNEW a crime had been committed.

It was NOT the crime per say but the coverup.

The Russia probe.

To date, we (the public) do NOT know of any specific crime.

We DO know that trump was NOT being investigated up till the time comey was fired.

We DO know, said by the top Intelligence community leaders, that they don't know of ANY vote that was altered of "influenced" by the Russians.

We DO know that there was NO hacking, Just Podesta being stupid and giving out the password.

We DO know the collusion between the Hillary campaign and the DNC.

We DO know that certain American citizens were "unmasked" by the obama admin.

We do know that many of these requested to be "unmasked" were turned down by the Intelligence community

We DO know these names were "leaked" by very high officials in the gov't.
Flynn and others repeatedly broke federal law, yet Trump made Flynn the National Security Director even after being warned about Flynn's activities. Why?

Trump fired Comey, by Trump's own admission, to halt the Russian investigation. This clearly may be obstruction of justice, especially if investigators find, as claimed by Trump's own sons, that Trump had significant Russian financial connections, which he has repeatedly denied.

All U.S. intelligence sources say that the Russians hacked the Democrats in order to influence the U.S. Presidential election, as well as attempted to directly influence the elections by hacking election boards in many states. Yet Trump is indifferent to these activities. Why?

The Russians also reportedly placed malware in the U.S. electrical grid.

I wonder if the Trumpies defending Trump are just ideological fools, or perhaps even Russian agent trolls.
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