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Old 06-06-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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Unless Comey suddenly decides to not do it or "disappears", this Thursday is it.
Wishful thinking of the left. Comey has failed to report and carry out the Law. There is more damage to be done to himself and the DNC.


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Old 06-06-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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Trump succeeded in making telling the truth a crime?
We knew it was coming.

Once financial advisors were no longer required to keep their clients' best interests at heart, and corporations no longer had to be honest about bribes, we knew it was coming.
 
Old 06-06-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Trump handled firing Comey very well. He got the top two people in the Justice Department to put their recommendations to fire Comey in writing, and fired Comey while he was out of town, so Comey couldn't destroy records he didn't want Jeff Sessions to get.

Comey's records are sitting on Sessions' desk, and Trump has recommendations to fire Comey in writing, I'd say Trump handled it masterfully.
That's a pretty optimistic take. I'd argue that the timing was terrible. There are very few people on either side of the aisle that would argue Comey should have never been fired. So getting the recommendations from the justice department is unnecessary reinforcement of something that most Americans wouldn't have taken issue with. The Left hated him for his late announcement re: the reopening of the email investigation, and the Right hated him for his failure to press criminal charges against Clinton. Even the neutral person could see that Comey had found his way into the spotlight of the circus and he didn't belong there. He needed to go.

However, Trump should have fired him early on. He would have been well within his rights to do so, and he wouldn't have faced much of a backlash. However, when he fires him in the middle of the Russia investigation he's adding weight to the theories that there's something there (as someone who voted for Clinton, I don't believe there's any collusion on his part). He's making it look like he's hiding something. He should have fired him from the start. And if he still wanted to fire him now, he would have been better pressed to wait until some of this Russia stuff boils over. Regardless of the real logic behind the move, it never looks good to fire someone who is investigating you. It makes it look like you're hiding something adds fuel to the fire. It was a reasonable move at a terrible time. Hardly handled "masterfully."
 
Old 06-06-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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That's what is most likely.



Trump handled firing Comey very well. He got the top two people in the Justice Department to put their recommendations to fire Comey in writing, and fired Comey while he was out of town, so Comey couldn't destroy records he didn't want Jeff Sessions to get.

Comey's records are sitting on Sessions' desk, and Trump has recommendations to fire Comey in writing, I'd say Trump handled it masterfully.
I do not agree that the firing was handled properly. Publicly humiliating Comey was callous and unnecessary as he was out of town speaking at a conference when he was notified. He thought it was a joke because someone saw the firing on tv. After 30+ years of service he deserved to be treated with more respect and compassion.

Maybe you have never fired anyone. I have and it is not a pleasant experience even if the person deserved to be fired.
 
Old 06-06-2017, 01:56 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by tb4000 View Post
Unless Comey suddenly decides to not do it or "disappears", this Thursday is it.
Not going to happen. 1) Comey would have to perjure himself. He already has said that no one ever pressured him. 2) Even if Trump did ask him to drop the investigation, it isn't Obstruction of Justice. That has been made clear by a number of Constitutional attorneys.

They expect (they being the watchers of this case) that there is going to be a big NOTHING come out of Comey's testimony.
 
Old 06-06-2017, 01:57 PM
 
Location: United States
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The press & the leftists are in la la land. There was never a chance Comey was going to endanger himself, but all we have heard is wait till Thursday & Russia Russia Russia. Delusions.
I don't know what Comey is going to say, but they (Comey, his lawyers, and those plotting against Trump) have been preparing for the last three weeks.

I have no doubt that Comey and his lawyers have been working with members of congress that want to take Trump down, it will be interesting to see what they plan to do. Comey having his records seized by the Justice Department before he could destroy them is really going to make it hard for Comey lie while under oath.

Comey is going to have to be very careful, and will likely only make very vague insinuations. He'll be sure to stop short of perjury.
 
Old 06-06-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Yup, it's the day Comey gets arrested.
That might be possible, but Comey isn't going to perjure himself.
 
Old 06-06-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
We knew it was coming.

Once financial advisors were no longer required to keep their clients' best interests at heart, and corporations no longer had to be honest about bribes, we knew it was coming.
Laughable!
 
Old 06-06-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: United States
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That's a pretty optimistic take. I'd argue that the timing was terrible. There are very few people on either side of the aisle that would argue Comey should have never been fired. So getting the recommendations from the justice department is unnecessary reinforcement of something that most Americans wouldn't have taken issue with. The Left hated him for his late announcement re: the reopening of the email investigation, and the Right hated him for his failure to press criminal charges against Clinton. Even the neutral person could see that Comey had found his way into the spotlight of the circus and he didn't belong there. He needed to go.

However, Trump should have fired him early on. He would have been well within his rights to do so, and he wouldn't have faced much of a backlash. However, when he fires him in the middle of the Russia investigation he's adding weight to the theories that there's something there (as someone who voted for Clinton, I don't believe there's any collusion on his part). He's making it look like he's hiding something. He should have fired him from the start. And if he still wanted to fire him now, he would have been better pressed to wait until some of this Russia stuff boils over. Regardless of the real logic behind the move, it never looks good to fire someone who is investigating you. It makes it look like you're hiding something adds fuel to the fire. It was a reasonable move at a terrible time. Hardly handled "masterfully."
They have been investigating the Russian thing since last summer, it didn't matter when Trump fired Comey, the reaction from the Trump detractors would have been the same.
 
Old 06-06-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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For?

This is going to be good. Imagine if Trump trumped up something to arrest Comey. The FBI would go nuts. (and should). Trump would not make it through the week without being impeached.
So for those saying things like this....think things through.

BTW if its perjury for saying trump wasnt being investigated before? Go back and check the record. You've been lied too.
You people are dreaming.
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