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Old 06-13-2017, 08:43 PM
 
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I'm not trying to get into a debate here. I just see a lot of post that Trump colluded with the Russians to illegally win the election. So I'm trying to get where they are coming from. I hear of leaks by unnamed sources, of hearsay, of meetings with Russians (not that Politicians or Candidates aren't supposed to meet with foreign leader). I hear of suspicious stuff. I hear Trump is a liar, he fooled the voters with promises, he wants to use his Presidency to make better business deals, and so on.

But I am unaware of what the actual evidence is. Not that so and so government official or elected representative says so. I am aware that the NSA records every email and phone call of every communication within the US. Shouldn't there be evidence presented by now? If there was evidence, why would Trump be allowed to govern for half a year already, without impeachment in sight? I find this odd as all of this election tampering and Trump collusion happened over 8 month ago.

What's the evidence, on the level that can be held up in a court of law? Where's the recorded conversation, email, the seized computer or anything similar? Or is there really none? It's odd there are all the great hackers that come up with all sorts of emails and files over the last several years. But nothing here.
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:44 PM
 
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There is none


They've been in investigating for nearly a year and found nothing

It's a way for the left to rationalize their loss and deligitimize Trumps election by saying he only got elected because of the Russians
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Where's the evidence Trump colluded with Russians to illegally win the election?

You mean to say that the FBI and CIA haven't informed you yet?
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'm not trying to get into a debate here. I just see a lot of post that Trump colluded with the Russians to illegally win the election. So I'm trying to get where they are coming from. I hear of leaks by unnamed sources, of hearsay, of meetings with Russians (not that Politicians or Candidates aren't supposed to meet with foreign leader). I hear of suspicious stuff. I hear Trump is a liar, he fooled the voters with promises, he wants to use his Presidency to make better business deals, and so on.

But I am unaware of what the actual evidence is. Not that so and so government official or elected representative says so. I am aware that the NSA records every email and phone call of every communication within the US. Shouldn't there be evidence presented by now? If there was evidence, why would Trump be allowed to govern for half a year already, without impeachment in sight? I find this odd as all of this election tampering and Trump collusion happened over 8 month ago.

What's the evidence, on the level that can be held up in a court of law? Where's the recorded conversation, email, the seized computer or anything similar? Or is there really none? It's odd there are all the great hackers that come up with all sorts of emails and files over the last several years. But nothing here.
It's 100% a fantasy genned up by the hateful losers of the last election (FakeStream Media, Liberals, Swamp Establishment).
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence.
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:06 PM
 
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Pathetic. Given most of the Republicans on the intelligence committee says there is, all of our intelligence agencies say there is, and recent leaks have provided documentation, AND the Illinois election computers provided a bunch of evidence.

You folks are amazing.
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Where is the evidence ? What do you think the two investigations into this are all about ? None of us, on the left or right, know how this will shake out, but the difference is, we lefties want to know the truth, the righties want it gone.

It is premature and silly to even talk about "there is nothing there" without these investigations being completed. All that the people who are doing that are doing is putting their heads into the sand. WE WANT TO KNOW, they DO NOT WANT TO KNOW.

I think the bottom line is, they know deep in their hearts that Trump played some games, but none of that matters to them. Like he said, " I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue................." He knows his base.
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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You mean to say that the FBI and CIA haven't informed you yet?
Actually, Comey testified that the FBI did not believe Trump colluded with the Russians. So there is that. I guess you missed it.
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I don't know what is or not, but Ruskies did meddle in the election and mr T and his entire team all cushy cushy with them. Unexplained -Appearances and sloppy slippy slidy stuff going on all the time. Lies, mid truths, and silent looks. I don't know what it is -but it just ain't normal!
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Actually, Comey testified that the FBI did not believe Trump colluded with the Russians. So there is that. I guess you missed it.
That certainly explains why there are so many ongoing investigations.

Carry on.

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