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"After 7 months of investigations & committee hearings about my "collusion with the Russians," nobody has been able to show any proof. Sad!"
The last refuge of the guilty man is "You have no proof!"
Don't worry Donny, they are getting closer, Mueller has top investigators in money laundering and crime syndicates unraveling it as we speak.
I know conservatives want liberals to go back to work. It's outrageous and I would riot in the streets, burn down my neighborhood, attack others that are not liberal, shut down speech etc etc.. too
So, carry on creating fake witch hunts. It makes you feel better.
We'll have to wait and see what Mueller and team come up with but I'm guess things are going to turn out a bit different than all the Republican attempts to smear Clinton.
Presumptions of ANYTHING are premature at this point. Guilt or innocence. And as we live in an innocent until proven guilty society, I think anyone should wait until the end of the investigation before saying "Trump Colluded!" "Trump Obstructed!" The Comey testimony is not good for Trump, but if the SC doesn't find grounds to call it obstruction, he's not "guilty" (though not "guilty" doesn't mean innocent or ethical). We'll see.
I'm fascinated by what's going to come out of the Russia investigation. I don't believe Trump "colluded" with Russia. I don't know that many in his campaign did. I do believe that Russia might have tried to turn the election for Trump (though I don't think they're responsible for him winning). Not because they have some agreement with the president or some hate for HRC, but because they might have some things on Trump that could potentially be seen as potential for blackmail or pressure. What those things are? Who knows. Probably not certain hotel room tapes or billions in debt, but maybe some little things Russia feels they might be able to use to nudge DJT in the direction they want on something in the future. Stockpiling leverage- even little things- is par for the course in international (and even local) politics. That's my uninformed speculation for fun.
Presumptions of ANYTHING are premature at this point. Guilt or innocence. And as we live in an innocent until proven guilty society, I think anyone should wait until the end of the investigation before saying "Trump Colluded!" "Trump Obstructed!" The Comey testimony is not good for Trump, but if the SC doesn't find grounds to call it obstruction, he's not "guilty" (though not "guilty" doesn't mean innocent or ethical). We'll see.
I'm fascinated by what's going to come out of the Russia investigation. I don't believe Trump "colluded" with Russia. I don't know that many in his campaign did. I do believe that Russia might have tried to turn the election for Trump (though I don't think they're responsible for him winning). Not because they have some agreement with the president or some hate for HRC, but because they might have some things on Trump that could potentially be seen as potential for blackmail or pressure. What those things are? Who knows. Probably not certain hotel room tapes or billions in debt, but maybe some little things Russia feels they might be able to use to nudge DJT in the direction they want on something in the future. Stockpiling leverage- even little things- is par for the course in international (and even local) politics. That's my uninformed speculation for fun.
Notice the media dropped words like "Alleged" or "suspected" or "possible"?
They say things like this:
"Comey today, will discuss Trump's collusion with Russia".
Real subtle so as to try to convince the reader/viewer as its already been proven as fact.
The Trump-Russia collusion story is nonsense, as its disseminators know better than anyone else. The object of the exercise is not to support the innuendo, but to launch an investigation which can provoke the White House into responses that might be construed as illegal. The intelligence leaks involved in framing the story alone are probably sufficient grounds to put several dozen senior officials in federal prison for double-digit terms. That consideration gauges the scale of the problem: the mutineers have committed multiple felonies, and their downside should the mutiny go wrong is not ignominious retirement but hard time at Leavenworth.
For the moment, the mutineers have the momentum. The Trump administration continues to run on a skeleton staff, with the vast majority of key positions still unoccupied. If my surmise is correct, it was unable to persuade the director of the FBI, the nation’s chief watchdog, to undertake vigorous countermeasures against the mutiny, for example, a comprehensive screening of electronic communications by the reporters who received leaks of classified materials. Most mainstream journalists consider Trump a threat to a desirable social order and are not squeamish about the means they might employ to undermine him. And there are any number of former Obama appointees, for example, former US Attorney for New York’s Southern District Preet Bharara, prepared to convict the president in the media. Bharara claimed earlier this month that “there’s absolutely evidence to begin a case” for obstruction of justice against Trump, although he allowed that as a private citizen he had no access to the evidence.
But I got to agree with him here. Let's see the proof.
Starting with the obstruction of justice. Did he or did he not try to get Rogers and Coats to impede Flynn's investigation? Where are these alluded-to tapes? ...
Then let's let's look at the Kremlin meddling in our elections. What was done? Who was involved? Were they meddling with money as well as "disinformation" social media campaigns? ...
Coats and Rodgers have just been waffling around when testifying, like a couple of schoolboys in the Principal's office, denying some mischief. Will they break and rat Trump out, if their careers and reputations are on the line? It was pathetic, watching them squirm at the hearings, trying to deflect the questions. However, at an earlier time, Coats did acknowledge that Trump had asked him to intervene in the investigation of Flynn.
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