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Old 06-27-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
"Warren Buffett's Secretary Likely Makes Between $200,000 And $500,000/Year."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrod.../#21d873d57e83




Instead of looking at Warren Buffet and his secretary lets use millionaire CEO Mitt Romney and a single American making $60,000 a year.

Mitt Romney publicly agrees that his effective tax rate is around 14%.

Romney paid 14% effective tax rate in 2011 - Sep. 21, 2012


(time 1:15 - 1:40)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0FG9sDJZiM




Using the following tax calculator a single American making $60,000 a year pays around a 18% effective tax rate.

Tax year: 2017
Filing status: Single
Taxable income: $60,000

Results,

Tax: $10,739
As a percentage of income: 17.9% (effective tax rate)
Tax Bracket: 25%

Tax Brackets (Federal Income Tax Rates) 2000 through 2017


Millionaire CEO's pay around 14% effective tax rates, and single Americans making $60,000 pay around 18% effective tax rates.
Not sure what you try to prove except for that the rich pay way too much tax.
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Old 06-27-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
uhm buffett surely lied

it has been proven time after time that buffett lied


his secretary makes 60k (his words)..therefore she is in the 15% bracket..and would pay less than 12%....as I will show she pays less than 5%
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buffett pays an effective 17%...meanwhile buffett paid over 8 million in taxes

he said his secretary pays 30% in federal taxes...he lies

buffets states he gets taxed at 17% (his earned income is only 100k, the rest is investment (capital gains taxed at 15%(recently raised to 20%))) and that is less than his secretary...fact that is a LIE

there is no disputing that fact
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FACT: making 60k (which is what buffet himself says she makes) puts her in the 15% bracket..and that's based on her ENTIRE 60k being taxed..and we ALL KNOW that is never the case...even single you have the personal exemption, and the standard deduction

FACTS:
we're talking about a married secretary. with a not working spouse. They file jointly, pay a home mortgage and have 2 older kids (still claimed ) . They probably place at least $4,000 in an 401k (the average is about 7%) and itemize $15,000 in deductions(about 3k over the standard deduction). .....Here the tax picture changes dramatically. ....Taxable income drops to $27,800 -- the 15 percent tax bracket. With child tax credits, secretary now pays $1,419 in federal taxes, or 2.4 percent of $60,000. Add in another 2 percent for $1,218 in state taxes, and secretary pays a grand total, state and federal(to include payroll(ss)), of 4.4 percent on the $60,000-a-year salary.
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IF she is single/renter (which she is not) this would be the number:
60k gross:
That would give her taxable income of $50,250 ($60,000 less 1 exemption @ $3,400 and a standard deduction of $5,360) and a federal income tax liability of $8,986.25 – $4,386.25 + 25% of the excess over $31,850. So, the secretary’s effective Federal income tax rate is only 15% ($8,986.25 / $60,000). Hmmmm.
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so FACT is that she would only be rated at 15% for INCOME...if you want to throw in payroll, (which is not income tax) it still only brings her up to 22%...certainly not the 30% that buffett lied about
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FACTS:
buffett is a salaried worker for his companies...his salary 100k
his secretary earned 60k

he paid multi-millions..his secretary paid less than 3k......
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buffett want the rates (for ALL) to be higher,, because it wont effect him, but it will hurt his competition....those are facts

buffett LIED, and the left fell for it

I love that you keep citing "FACTS", followed by "probably" and an assortment of guesswork about what Buffett and his secretary would pay. Chutzpah in spades!
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Old 06-27-2017, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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That is why agorism is a viable form of peaceful revolution to kill the evil institution of aggression and slavery that we call "government".
If it means toll roads and Blackwater as law enforcement or fire fighters giving you a bill, that's a world I don't want to live in
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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If it means toll roads and Blackwater as law enforcement or fire fighters giving you a bill, that's a world I don't want to live in
We already have toll roads everywhere.

Law enforcement is the government 'a job.

Firefighters should bill us just like ambulances.
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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We already have toll roads everywhere.

Law enforcement is the government 'a job.

Firefighters should bill us just like ambulances.
There are very few if any toll roads in the SW, and I'd like to keep it that way. And no firefighters shouldn't bill you, ambulances shouldn't either. It's why I'm in support of single payer healthcare
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