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Old 07-11-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Based on what, that one fake a$$ photoshopped Time cover?

Which side is right, the side that the science is on or the side that fakes old magazine covers?
Oh please stop!
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Ugh. We should never have invented vaccines or advanced medical technologies to save humans and extend life expectancy. What were we thinking? Now too many damn people will destroy the planet.

Wasn't there a thread just a couple weeks ago about how the population is declining and we don't have enough babies being born? Make up your minds.
How can they make up their minds when their collective brain power is akin to a parrot? As far as I know it, the BORG do not have independent thought.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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Earth in 2100 will consist mainly of humans, rats and jellyfish if we continue going the way we are going.

Future generations will look at us as the most pathetic generation in history. Doing so little to
protect our planet all in order to save 25 cents on a gallon of gasoline.
Extinction is a normal and natural process, and we should not be doing anything to prevent it. Especially if it means curtailing freedom and liberty.

99% of all the species that have ever existed on Earth are extinct. If anything, artificially maintaining species that are no longer able to survive is an unnatural and destructive act. Extinction is a normal and correct process, and we should stop worrying about it.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Extinction is a normal and natural process, and we should not be doing anything to prevent it. Especially if it means curtailing freedom and liberty.


99% of all the species that have ever existed on Earth are extinct. If anything, artificially maintaining species that are no longer able to survive is an unnatural and destructive act.
Here we go again with someone realizing they aren't the center of the universe.

Where's your sense of self-importance?

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Old 07-11-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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that's what i figured. you got bupkis but partially deflated lungs.
There can be frustration with people who want simplistic solutions to complicated problems. There are a lot of tools in the diplomacy toolbox. I could write a book, but since they have already been written, it would be a waste of time.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Early America
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...and nobody seems to care.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...cientists-warn

There is still time to stop and reverse it, but it likely won't happen because people in this country don't care enough and there is too much money in the illegal poaching industry for third world countries in Africa and Asia to crack down on it (nor do they have the resources to do so if they wanted to). Sad.

Annihilation of wildlife is the price that will be paid for rescuing, saving and protecting self-destructive human populations from their own demise, which leads to human overpopulation and greater requirements for natural resources. That is the real elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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I heard because we killed the dodo bird, we now have 1000 years less before humanity becomes extinct... /end sarcasm
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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There can be frustration with people who want simplistic solutions to complicated problems. There are a lot of tools in the diplomacy toolbox. I could write a book, but since they have already been written, it would be a waste of time.
so you really have no clue how diplomacy will keep Chinese from wiping out exotic animals to make placebo stiffy pills. i see.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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Sadly, I think there is even less chance of us working together on this issue than working together on the causes of climate change that we humans have some control over. It would take serious talk about reducing the population, limiting consumption, setting aside more land for non-humans... I fear we are too selfish and short-sighted to hold out much hope.
Humans have zero control over climate change. It is just good old hubris that makes us think otherwise. If Mother Nature has decided we should die, then die we will.
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Old 07-11-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Humans have zero control over climate change. It is just good old hubris that makes us think otherwise. If Mother Nature has decided we should die, then die we will.
You mean to tell me that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, over 5 billion of species have existed, and of those 5 billion species over 99% have gone extinct?

Can't we just raise taxes? The Earth won't see that coming and we'll escape death!

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Old 07-11-2017, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Humans have zero control over climate change. It is just good old hubris that makes us think otherwise. If Mother Nature has decided we should die, then die we will.
I agree that it is hubris to think we can control everything, but certainly there are documented cases where humans have caused enough destruction locally to make a place uninhabitable. Look at deforestation on Easter Island, environmental destruction in northwestern Tanzania when humans first learned to smelt, Chernobyl, the Dust Bowl years - all cases where the destruction was caused or exacerbated by us and could have been prevented or alleviated by us. In the past, we have been able to abandon the environment we destroyed and move on to new land. That becomes harder and harder to do as our populations have grown and spread.
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