Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-17-2017, 06:41 PM
 
2,305 posts, read 2,410,176 times
Reputation: 1546

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust View Post
BFD.

What, he's not allowed to have an opinion?
He can have all the opinions he wants. However, as head of a foreign government meddling in domestic policies of another country is a really, really bad idea.

The Canadians went ballistic

"De Gaulle and "Vive le Québec libre"
On 24 July 1967, during a state visit to Expo '67, General Charles de Gaulle, president of France and a hero of the 20th century, proclaimed from the balcony of Montréal's City Hall a sentence that would change the history of Canada: “Vive le Québec libre.”

De Gaulle and "Vive le Québec libre" - The Canadian Encyclopedia

No difference here.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-17-2017, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Canada
7,681 posts, read 5,532,541 times
Reputation: 8817
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuptag View Post
He can have all the opinions he wants. However, as head of a foreign government meddling in domestic policies of another country is a really, really bad idea.
Trade between the U.S. and Canada is Canada's business too.

Just three months ago, Trump was complaining that Canadian domestic dairy policies were unfair to U.S. dairy farmers. He either didn't know or ignored the fact that U.S. dairy exports to Canada are more than FIVE TIMES higher than dairy imports from Canada to the U.S.. Does that sound like the U.S. is getting a raw deal on dairy like Trump claimed?

An increase in U.S. protectionist policies will have an impact on what Canada will do in response e.g. countervailing tariffs. Again, that is Canada's business.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Missouri
471 posts, read 826,189 times
Reputation: 370
Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQConvict View Post
I think what Hesychios objects to is the fact that your comment not only contributed nothing to the discussion, but it was not half as funny as you thought it was.

If you are going to go off on a tangent, at least put some effort and wit into it.
Why do you think that? Did the two of you discuss it? Or are you merely engaging in presumptuous speculation?

I enjoy it all. That's why I'm here. Mind your own business.

Last edited by Crosstimbers Okie; 07-17-2017 at 10:42 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-17-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Missouri
471 posts, read 826,189 times
Reputation: 370
Quote:
Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
Canada's strategy is to bypass Trump and deal directly with governors and mayors.
It is not "meddling" any more than is US states sending trade missions abroad and offering state incentives to get foreign investment.
Canada can have whatever strategy it wants. But US governors are prohibited from dealing with foreign powers unless Congress authorizes it. Article 1 of the US Constitution gives to Congress and only Congress the power to regulate commerce with foreign powers. And Congress has made it a felony for governors to kiss that ****** Trudeau's ass: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2017, 05:46 AM
 
51,654 posts, read 25,836,151 times
Reputation: 37894
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuptag View Post
He can have all the opinions he wants. However, as head of a foreign government meddling in domestic policies of another country is a really, really bad idea.

...
Got to love the outrage from the right about heads of foreign governments meddling in our business.

This is too damn funny.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2017, 06:27 AM
 
22,923 posts, read 15,497,191 times
Reputation: 16962
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosstimbers Okie View Post
Canada can have whatever strategy it wants. But US governors are prohibited from dealing with foreign powers unless Congress authorizes it. Article 1 of the US Constitution gives to Congress and only Congress the power to regulate commerce with foreign powers. And Congress has made it a felony for governors to kiss that ****** Trudeau's ass: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953
I guess you don't like the guy that was invited to speak to a forum of governors with the specific topic of the invitation being "trade"..

Don't invite him to address you and more to the point don't invite him to give an opinion about a specific topic if you're not going to like what you think he might have to say.

AND maybe you should talk to this ****** while you're on the topic of foreign leaders expressing opinions that WERE NOT INVITED:

G7 summit: Donald Trump calls Germans 'bad, very bad' and vows to curb foreign car imports | The Independent

Trump Insults London Mayor in Wake of Terrorist Attack.

6 Countries Trump Has Insulted, Provoked and Picked Fights With In His First Two Weeks | Alternet

https://www.indy100.com/article/dona...st-map-7406551

"Irony"......look it up.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2017, 06:29 AM
 
25,849 posts, read 16,537,070 times
Reputation: 16027
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuptag View Post
Trudeau tells US governors to ditch 'America First' - BBC News

Imagine the outrage if an American President had suggested Quebec ditching Anglophone Canada.

Oh, we know what happened when DeGaulle repeated "Vive Le Quebec Libre" - major diplomatic incident.
De Gaulle and "Vive le Québec libre" - The Canadian Encyclopedia

Trudeau should be banned from the U.S. for meddling in domestic politics!
He's nothing. Nobody listens to him:
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Missouri
471 posts, read 826,189 times
Reputation: 370
Quote:
Originally Posted by BruSan View Post
I guess you don't like the guy that was invited to speak to a forum of governors with the specific topic of the invitation being "trade"..

Don't invite him to address you and more to the point don't invite him to give an opinion about a specific topic if you're not going to like what you think he might have to say.

AND maybe you should talk to this ****** while you're on the topic of foreign leaders expressing opinions that WERE NOT INVITED:

G7 summit: Donald Trump calls Germans 'bad, very bad' and vows to curb foreign car imports | The Independent

Trump Insults London Mayor in Wake of Terrorist Attack.

6 Countries Trump Has Insulted, Provoked and Picked Fights With In His First Two Weeks | Alternet

https://www.indy100.com/article/dona...st-map-7406551

"Irony"......look it up.
I believe the President is authorized to deal with foreign powers, although most of those duties are typically delegated to the Secretary of State.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2017, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Canada
7,681 posts, read 5,532,541 times
Reputation: 8817
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosstimbers Okie View Post
I believe the President is authorized to deal with foreign powers, although most of those duties are typically delegated to the Secretary of State.
How do you explain this then?

Quote:
June marks the fifth anniversary of the signing of the Canada-Michigan Crossing Agreement, a pivotal point in the story of the Gordie Howe International Bridge project.

On June 15, 2012, the Government of Canada and the State of Michigan signed the agreement which established the framework for Canada’s and Michigan’s roles and responsibilities for the largest and most ambitious bi-national infrastructure project along the Canada-US border.
https://www.wdbridge.com/en/the-cana...sing-agreement

That is an actual formal agreement, not simply discussions by Canadian officials with U.S. local and state officials and business associations, aimed at convincing them that it is in their best interest to put pressure on Washington not to make certain specific changes to NAFTA. No agreements are signed. It's just a dialogue. I imagine Canada listened to the concerns too and took that into consideration when coming up with its negotiating position.

Congress, for the first time I think, will have input in the NAFTA negotiations. Won't the members be listening to what their states want?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-18-2017, 12:13 PM
 
20,757 posts, read 8,588,145 times
Reputation: 14393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuptag View Post
The article was from the BBC, (i.e. British Broadcasting Corporation). Typically, the BBC is rated one of the finest, most objective news gathering operations..
BBC is left wing. Very biased coverage. Openly anti Brexit and continues to trash it. It's the CNN of the UK but with sexy accents.

But BBC Radio 4 has hilarious readings by David Sedaris as well as lots of comedy programs.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:40 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top