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Great term. I'd classify myself as alt center.... Single payer for all but no refugees and illegals. Guns and marijuana are legal. More personal freedom is better. Same gov entities protect our environment and worker safety.... A mixture of left and right views....
"I’ve recently discussed the combination of Alt-Right and Alt-Left into an Alt-Center synthesis but it has been increasingly brought to my attention that elements of the alt-right already show support for issues such as single-payer healthcare. I was skeptical when commenter Nulle Terre Sans Seigneur told me that Spencer’s group and Counter-currents embraced “leftist” policies. I figured it might just be a few outliers. Then Robert Stark of Stark Truth Radio brought it up as well, pointing me to certain links. It appears that actual leaders such as Richard Spencer endorse these issues.
That this is new to me suggests they may downplay their position on this issue relative to others, knowing well it is still unacceptable and equated with evil “socialism” on much of the right. Or, it could be I tend to exclude individual personalities as noise from much of my analysis, preferring to look at trends and incentives. I took a closer look and found Spencer wrote a piece on the issue back in March when Ryancare was the topic of discussion and sure enough, a good proportion of his commenters were skeptical at best about his proposal with libertarian types as usual insisting on a return to “the free market.”"
"Indeed, there's something of an Old Left nostalgia going in some alt-right segments. Paul Gottfried's Strange Death of Marxism tells the story of the demise of the blue-collar left almost with a somber and even mildly nostalgic tone, Gottfried having had many acquaintances on the radical left (like Paul Piccone). Rebel Media outright eulogized the Old Left. But even among far less cucked specimens (like Vox Day), for whom communism is that thing that's no longer a threat (Cold War's over, ****!), and for whom capitalism is little more than soulless wage-cuckoldry for impenetrable publicly traded companies staffed by radical middle management (in no small part thanks to the New Deal's helping hand), the desire for Old Left economic radicalism is rising, and a certain nostalgic tone of "Why can't we have the Old Left back? Back when the left was about telling bosses to shove it up their asses, and not about racially integrating my gay bathhouses like it is now!" definitely exists. Giovanni Dannato has been calling for such a coalition of Old Left economics and alt-right identity politics for a while now: the "alt-center.""
I read an article a few years ago as to why political polarizing movements happen on the left and right. It is more to do with passionate embrace of ideas, and sacrificing a significant amount of careful thought and critical thinking on both sides. Moderates or Centrist tend to make more fact-based or pragmatic conclusions, and are usually divorced from extreme passions. That's why the left and right get all the press, they scream the loudest. Moderates or Centrists as a whole don't muster up the anger or vocal indignity to match a polarized group, so their voices are usually drowned out.
Two years ago a Radical Center was proposed mixing elements of the dissident Right and Dissident left. Basically a hybrid of Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan but the idea goes further back all the way to the Ross Perot movement.
Am I the only one here who voted for all three of those guys for President?
I'd rather see a patriotic movement and throw all those labels in the garbage.
Patriotism by itself just means you want what's best for your country but than you get to the actual policies that will improve your country and what ideologies or concepts you want your nation based on. People are patriotic for different reasons. Some more practical reasons, some are blood and soil nationalist, and some have some abstract idea of American exceptionalism.
How are we supposed to pigeonhole our enemies with all this nuance?
American politics works best when only two ideologies are recognized: good guys vs. (neo-Nazis) or (POC antifa commies)
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