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Old 07-30-2017, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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ask yourself why nothing is getting done in Washington. It's the establishment and status quo that doesn't want to change - not Trump. They are milking taxpayers for everything (just wait for the pension crisis to hit and your taxes go up to save govt. employee's cushy retirements).

heathcare could get fixed. wasteful spending fixed. greed and corruption fixed. illegal immigration fixed. it's not happening because those that benefit from it being broken don't want it fixed. sounds like that is what most dems want also...
I would be glad if Trump offered solutions to the problems facings us but he hasn't. Kicking a few million people off health care, building a wall, banning refugees are not solutions. What are his plans to address the budget problems, Medicaid, Social Security, Infrastructure. I haven't heard a word about getting rid of the carried interest tax shelter for hedge fund manages, speaking of corruption have you ever heard him complain about the Citizens United Decision, address the issue regarding public service unions.


I didn't vote for Trump but I thought there would be some upside, I have not seen anything significant.
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Old 07-30-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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I would be glad if Trump offered solutions to the problems facings us but he hasn't. Kicking a few million people off health care, building a wall, banning refugees are not solutions. What are his plans to address the budget problems, Medicaid, Social Security, Infrastructure. I haven't heard a word about getting rid of the carried interest tax shelter for hedge fund manages, speaking of corruption have you ever heard him complain about the Citizens United Decision, address the issue regarding public service unions.


I didn't vote for Trump but I thought there would be some upside, I have not seen anything significant.
And you won't see anything. They are all talk. It was bad enough that Bush2 broke this country and Obamabutt took it down another notch. There is no hope it is all down hill jill.
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Old 07-30-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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One has to only look at how many people have left the white house in 6 months to see the chaos and dysfunction. A communications director, press secretary, national security advisor, deputy national security advisor x2, the director of the office of ethics resigning early, acting attorney general, deputy chief of staff, v.p. chief of staff, FBI director, and now chief of staff. How many more positions are yet unfilled?

I worked at a place with a high turn over and yes, it was because of poor management. To say that Trump is a bad boss is an understatement. Add to that corrupt.
So many mistakes in what you posted. Do you get your news from the HuffingandPuffing Post? Here are the corrections:

Only two of Trump's staff have resigned, both of whom will stay on a few weeks to help the new guys:
The communications director and press secretary were one person -- Sean Spicer. No wonder he burned out!
Chief of Staff Priebus was the other one.

Deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh was a suspected leaker so got the boot as well as a low level person in the Comms office that Scaramucci got rid of for the same reason.

Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland is now the ambassador to Singapore. A cushy job by all accounts.
Deputy National Security Advisor Dina Powell replaced her, personally chosen by Gen. McMaster.

National Security Advisor McMaster is still there.

VP Pence's chief of staff worked for him when Pence was governor so Pence wanted to keep him for a smooth transition to the White House, but the guy never planned to stay past the summer anyway.

Comey was corrupt so deserved to be fired.

Acting Attorney General Sally Yates deserved to be fired. Another Obama holdover and Dem 'resister.'

The Ethics Office Director was a long time bureaucrat. We hope more entrenched bureaucrats from the Deep State resign so government can become less bloated and more efficient. Many won't be replaced. Trump is draining the Swamp.

By the way, I recall Obama had four Sec. of Defense in five years because they didn't like his micro-managment style. Several press secretaries left as well but that is considered the worst job in government so expect high turnover. Many staff changes but you can look them up yourself.

People who only started paying attention to politics don't realize there are constant personnel changes. Usually the longest anyone lasts is one term because it's a high stress, low paid job and people are there to network to get better jobs after they leave.
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Old 07-30-2017, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Sooner or later, like it or not, the buck stops at his desk.

He cannot excuse that fact out of his life, no matter how hard he tries.

History is watching.
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Old 07-30-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So many mistakes in what you posted. Do you get your news from the HuffingandPuffing Post? Here are the corrections:

Only two of Trump's staff have resigned, both of whom will stay on a few weeks to help the new guys:
The communications director and press secretary were one person -- Sean Spicer. No wonder he burned out!
Chief of Staff Priebus was the other one.

Deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh was a suspected leaker so got the boot as well as a low level person in the Comms office that Scaramucci got rid of for the same reason.

Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland is now the ambassador to Singapore. A cushy job by all accounts.
Deputy National Security Advisor Dina Powell replaced her, personally chosen by Gen. McMaster.

National Security Advisor McMaster is still there.

VP Pence's chief of staff worked for him when Pence was governor so Pence wanted to keep him for a smooth transition to the White House, but the guy never planned to stay past the summer anyway.

Comey was corrupt so deserved to be fired.

Acting Attorney General Sally Yates deserved to be fired. Another Obama holdover and Dem 'resister.'

The Ethics Office Director was a long time bureaucrat. We hope more entrenched bureaucrats from the Deep State resign so government can become less bloated and more efficient. Many won't be replaced. Trump is draining the Swamp.

By the way, I recall Obama had four Sec. of Defense in five years because they didn't like his micro-managment style. Several press secretaries left as well but that is considered the worst job in government so expect high turnover. Many staff changes but you can look them up yourself.

People who only started paying attention to politics don't realize there are constant personnel changes. Usually the longest anyone lasts is one term because it's a high stress, low paid job and people are there to network to get better jobs after they leave.
You forgot Flynn, 6 months in and this many departures is historic and you can't justify this many under the heading "needs to be fired" particularly the FBI and NSA heads and acting AG. A General as chief of staff is highly unusual.

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Old 07-30-2017, 10:53 PM
 
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Trump was instrumental in getting Sgt. Tahmooressi released from Mexican prison...
In 2014? Do elaborate, this should be good. No, yakking about it to the US press isn't "instrumental".

And let's not forget that the number of checks Trump claims to have sent and the number of checks he actually has sent tends to differ.
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Old 07-30-2017, 10:56 PM
 
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No, he's a great boss. It's about time somebody is pointing fingers.
I though it was a well-oiled machine? Didn't someone say that - orange complexion, combover, what was that name?
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Old 07-31-2017, 03:28 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Wow...That describes Trump perfectly!
Yes. Maybe after this, it will be considered to check into a person's background and also have them pass a mental health test, beforehand.

There was something mentioned in the article regarding a parent "having hyped certain traits", such as his Dad telling him he "is a fighter" and "a winner", besides anything being perceived as weakness as negative. Remember, he was always getting into fights and would often be suspended. His father found him with switchblades and sent him to a Military school.

This stood out from the article: That although the cause of NPD isn't known, some researchers think that in biologically vulnerable children, parenting styles that overemphasize the child's specialness and criticize fears and failures may be partially responsible. The child may hide low self-esteem by developing a superficial sense of perfection and behavior that shows a need for constant admiration.

Though I think he may have other issues besides, that makes sense. He may have been more sensitive as a child and bullied, but was likely talked out of reacting emotionally, reacting physically, instead. Then, HE became the bully to avoid being on the other end. He obviously established ONE way to function - to react and respond defensively, blame others and "never, ever be wrong". (If having to admit fault, I guess that would be perceived as weak or backing down, in his eyes).

Then, that whole loyalty thing.. he wants others "on his side" no matter what, but he cannot maintain that, himself. As we see, it is a very fine line with him. If one crosses him or is perceived to have crossed him, they are OUT. He is SO limited in his thinking, it's either black or white, and is so irrational. Again, he did not develop properly and was allowed to maintain such a limited outlook and approach, obviously reinforced as an adult by his father, no wonder it is cemented in stone. It is not that he was "so successful" as some want to think, but that he "won" by browbeating others, as we have seen since. It's not like he's never met with resistance to his supposed winning.

Wow. Well, one thing for sure, his having been in the public eye has provided even more insights than there would have been if having remained in his Tower.

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Old 07-31-2017, 05:12 AM
 
Location: *
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Yeah, I am always amazed at this. There aren't many liberals in the U.S., except in places like NYC and SF.

The idea that only liberals would be against a reality show TV host as President, and only liberals would have a problem with lying, consorting with enemies, blatant racism, daily tabloid dumpster fires of idiocy, and management skills from hell, is just bizarre.

The only liberal Presidential candidate, Jill Stein, repeatedly endorsed Trump over Clinton, BTW. If anything, it's moderates of both parties who are primarily against Trump, with liberals kinda on the sidelines. Most liberals have constantly claimed that Dems and Reps are basically the same, so why would they care?
Well, when you put it that way?
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Old 07-31-2017, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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In 2014? Do elaborate, this should be good. No, yakking about it to the US press isn't "instrumental".

And let's not forget that the number of checks Trump claims to have sent and the number of checks he actually has sent tends to differ.
Good luck with that request, facts are going to get in the way of this one but we have seen this disease before.
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