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Old 08-03-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Put the insurance vultures out of business. SINGLE PAYER NOW!

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/02/reut...-year-end.html
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:53 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Dont worry Trump will repeal Obamacare and great coverage will be just $19.99 a month. All the health insurance problems are Obama's fault since there were no problems before 2009.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Molina (the link) had profits last year of 58 cents per share and losses this year of $4.10! WTF, you say? Molina recently fired its top management and admitted that they grew their company faster than they were able to handle. So it is a case of bad management as much as high health care costs. I'm with the OP, though. A health care delivery system that must deliver profits before care is wrong.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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And the death spiral for the load of crap called Obamacare continues!

Back to square one and start over...
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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When everybody's rates go up, you can lay the blame squarely at the feet of the greed of the insurance executives and Wall Street.

When nobody can afford insurance any more we'll be ready for single payer.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:38 AM
 
Location: USA
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When everybody's rates go up, you can lay the blame squarely at the feet of the greed of the insurance executives and Wall Street.

When nobody can afford insurance any more we'll be ready for single payer.
Correct.

The crucial tipping point right now is the upper middle class. Right now, the upper middle class sides with the top 0.1% because they still gain more than they lose from automation, globalization, open borders, and "free market" healthcare.

When the upper middle class starts losing their jobs to foreign countries and machines, and when they can no longer afford insurance, (the things that lower and middle class people have been facing since the 1980s) then things will change.
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And the death spiral for the load of crap called Obamacare continues!

Back to square one and start over...
They started more than 7 years ago and haven't done Jack!
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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It should have been Single Payer from the beginning.
Wasn't the Republicans against single Payer
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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I agree with putting insurance vultures out of business but I don't want to supplant them with government vultures... single payer is just changing out one vulture for another.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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Drive a stake through its black heart. Kill Obamacare once and for all.

People you wanted both parties to work together and 49 of them got together and decided to keep paying the insurance companies. Keep the transfer of wealth going to business now and in the future.
They couldn't agree on anything that would lower the cost. Likely didn't even consider it.

The lobbyist are in control and people need to shut up and go along with it like congress does. After all you wanted them to work together. Who did you think they would be working for ? You, WTFU

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