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Old 08-24-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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Yah, simple-minded. I've seen that one dozens of times. I have two of his books. But I don't believe that little cartoon is an adequate guide to the next, say, 100 years as technologies we can hardly imagine today come to dominate waking life and the companies that "own" them come to dominate the world. Do you?
Thing is, nobody is forced to use neither Facebook nor Google nor Amazon. It's quite easy not to. Not necessarily convenient, but it's not hard. And I think we are forgetting how quickly these brands can fall from grace. MySpace was mentioned upthread. Yahoo was the behemoth once.

The actual de facto monopolies are the ISPs. It is MUCH easier to change browser, search engine and online shop than it is to move to another ISP, and that's if you're lucky enough to live in an area that's served by several. Yet their obligation to be impartial carriers have been under constant attack from the same people who are suddenly clutching their pearls about monopolies. So I find their sudden realization that they actually have firm principles very convenient.
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Old 08-24-2017, 04:45 PM
 
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I'd agree. I mean when I searched google for a video of a band all I could find were links to youtube first before anything else from sites like DailyMotion came up. Google literally will force you to consume what they want you to. It's also why I use other engines now like Duckduckgo.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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Most social media like Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram are very far left, and censor speech they do not like. It is another place where a huge amount of information is exchanged, but they don't allow freedom of speech of it isn't far left, liberal/progressive. So you are only getting one side of any issues. Norcal, and San Francisco/silicon valley is now controlling a large content of our speech. Not good.
Innovation tends to be the domain of the progressively-minded, rather than traditionalists? What a surprise.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:33 PM
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Why doesn't the right just build their own platforms? Lack of skill? Too bad.

Maybe stop whining all day and go learn something useful.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Innovation tends to be the domain of the progressively-minded, rather than traditionalists? What a surprise.
Silicon Valley and the tech vanguard were once far more libertarian / individualist / classically liberal. Now it is decidedly leftist / authoritarian / collectivist.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Why doesn't the right just build their own platforms?
Good idea, I'll get right on creating a Google rival that stresses rationality and objectivity over emotionality and social justice.

If, in 50 years, most of human interaction and activity happens on a corporate-owned global metaverse, will folks still be happy all that power is in the hands of a corporate behemoth that can make arbitrary rules at a mere whim? How do you know you and yours will still be ideologically "correct" x decades into the future?
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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Silicon Valley and the tech vanguard were once far more libertarian / individualist / classically liberal. Now it is decidedly leftist / authoritarian / collectivist.
I think that classic liberalism is more at odds with Trump's agenda than it was with Obama's.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Republicans are gutting net neutrality and there's nobody to blame but those who voted them in.
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:16 PM
 
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Innovation tends to be the domain of the progressively-minded, rather than traditionalists? What a surprise.
What a falsehood!
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Old 08-24-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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What a falsehood!
I'm open to being convinced otherwise. What are your counterexamples?
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