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Nice victim blaming did you miss the part where I said whites use more drugs and are arrested less? The racist justice system is huge obstacle to success for many minorities. Of course I'm sure you like it that way can't have the working class get to uppity now can we?
How did former crack dealer JayZ make it ?
He just bought a $88 million house in L.A and another one for over $20, million in the Hampton .
Vouchers. NOW! STOP trapping kids into horrible futures. And YES, trapping them IS a Democrat thing.
Having been watching the voucher/charter schools here it is reasonably clear what the outcome will be. Those in poor areas dealing with the lower socioeconomic class will be equivalent or worse than the public schools. There are success stories...a couple of places with big outside support are doing OK with a lower end clientele and a few charters are doing very well - of course they are in higher socioeconomics areas and have low ELL and FRL.
So if you wish to pay for private schools for the well off vouchers and charters work fine. If you wish to help the lower classes they won't do a thing.
As to why public schools it is clear the US has always seen an educated citizenry a societal need. We therefore provide it.
Having been watching the voucher/charter schools here it is reasonably clear what the outcome will be. Those in poor areas dealing with the lower socioeconomic class will be equivalent or worse than the public schools. There are success stories...a couple of places with big outside support are doing OK with a lower end clientele and a few charters are doing very well - of course they are in higher socioeconomics areas and have low ELL and FRL.
So if you wish to pay for private schools for the well off vouchers and charters work fine. If you wish to help the lower classes they won't do a thing.
As to why public schools it is clear the US has always seen an educated citizenry a societal need. We therefore provide it.
Pretty much the end goal of right wing ideology is a nation like Brazil. A small elite and a massive underclass. A middle class can only exist if the rich decide that public services like schools and roads are important. A society that values greed will inevitably end up with less since they don't invest in the people.
I don't feel wealthy people OWE anyone anything but I do think that extremely wealthy people should donate to charities or set some up themselves to benefit impoverished or less fortunate people. I would if I were a Bill Gates or a Kardashian or something. I think it's the right thing to do to voluntarily give, but I don't think people are owed anything.
There are a lot of people out there who have far more money than they will ever reasonably spend. I think using some of it to help others is morally right. They're not obligated to, but while they have a right to decide that, I also have a right to think they're being selfish.
This all actually pretty silly. What the rich pay is up to the rest of us. We can collect whatever we chose to and there is little the well off can do other than perhaps leave. But if their source of wealth is in the US, a very likely fact, that does little good.
So it is our sense of fairness that protects the wealthy. And of course the well off can lobby and try and influence the population. But if the populist machine begins to roll hard they get cut right down. And we always have the possibility of going to VAT or such. And I suppose you could do a Cadillac VAT...only on items costing more than say $10,000.
And messing with the system is tricky. The present Republican proposal has all sorts of interesting ramifications. They are for instance proposing to punish TX and Illinois as well as CA and NY. Basically if you kill the tax deductibility of state taxes you really sock it to places like IL and TX where property taxes are very high. Be great for NV where we have no income tax and relatively low property taxes.
I think we need to replace federal income taxes with a federal tax on land.
Easy to hide paper wealth and income. Not so easy to hide land.
It would also discourage people from buying up houses as investments, and it would lower the price of land and enable lower income people to buy. Win win. Only losers are the plutocrats and landed aristocracy.
Should wealthy Americans--wealthy businesspeople, doctors, scientists, high paid professors, high paid journalists and radio hosts, athletes, sports owners, etc. owe the 99 percent of Americans something?
NO!
The top 20% pay 84% of the taxes. 51% of people don't pay any FED taxes at all.
I'm in that group, and even though I pay a bungload of state taxes, sales taxes, utility taxes, and SS...etc. the top 20% are paying the lions share as it is. THEY (the wealthy) live portable lives. If they become over taxed, they move. That is as big a problem as the jobs being moved overseas.
People without money are the only ones stuck in their situation, and expecting handouts isn't the answer.
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I think we need to replace federal income taxes with a federal tax on land.
Easy to hide paper wealth and income. Not so easy to hide land.
It would also discourage people from buying up houses as investments, and it would lower the price of land and enable lower income people to buy. Win win. Only losers are the plutocrats and landed aristocracy.
So, your solution is to not only kill the economy, but make everyone equally poor. God I love socialists.
Having been watching the voucher/charter schools here it is reasonably clear what the outcome will be. Those in poor areas dealing with the lower socioeconomic class will be equivalent or worse than the public schools. There are success stories...a couple of places with big outside support are doing OK with a lower end clientele and a few charters are doing very well - of course they are in higher socioeconomics areas and have low ELL and FRL.
So if you wish to pay for private schools for the well off vouchers and charters work fine. If you wish to help the lower classes they won't do a thing.
False, and the Washington, DC voucher program proves it. The kids who were able to get out of the DC public schools to attend private schools did better than those trapped behind.
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As to why public schools it is clear the US has always seen an educated citizenry a societal need. We therefore provide it.
If only US public schools actually educated most students. They don't. Not even Asians and Whites, who are supposedly at an advantage. Read and learn:
Percent of 12th grade students of each race/ethnicity who are proficient or above:
This all actually pretty silly. What the rich pay is up to the rest of us. We can collect whatever we chose to and there is little the well off can do other than perhaps leave. But if their source of wealth is in the US, a very likely fact, that does little good.
So it is our sense of fairness that protects the wealthy. And of course the well off can lobby and try and influence the population. But if the populist machine begins to roll hard they get cut right down. And we always have the possibility of going to VAT or such. And I suppose you could do a Cadillac VAT...only on items costing more than say $10,000.
And messing with the system is tricky. The present Republican proposal has all sorts of interesting ramifications. They are for instance proposing to punish TX and Illinois as well as CA and NY. Basically if you kill the tax deductibility of state taxes you really sock it to places like IL and TX where property taxes are very high. Be great for NV where we have no income tax and relatively low property taxes.
So, the majority should rule and take what they want.
The majority of the country was for enslavement of others at one point. I guess that was moral and good since it was what the majority decided, right?
I guess you feel what the majority of Germans did to the Jews, gypsies and homosexuals was just since the majority went along with it.
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