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Old 09-23-2017, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Rs have long since abandoned the moral high ground. Whether they can ever find it again remains to be seen.

Meanwhile, Rs are pushing ACA repeal without even considering the cost to the nation or the our people. Their donors want it and that's that.

Rs are covering for Trump and his Russian-involved staff (What's Nunes up to these days?), and turning a blind eye to the unethical and unconstitutional behavior of Trump and his band of merry miscreants.

Rs are clear that winning is what is important -- gerrymandering, purging voter rolls, constant attempts to suppress the vote,... lies until hell wouldn't have it. Even Lee Atwater was ashamed of all the lies.

Rs defend themselves by saying everyone does it.

Nope. Not even.

That's why Ds have the high moral ground. Rs abandoned it long ago.
Anyone who thinks government is moral has their head buried in the sand. Using force and coercion to get what you isn't moral. It's the exact opposite. Not that the repubs are significantly better.
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Bc historically we've almost always been right! If you look at public policy, everything that's expanded access to rights has been a liberal cause. Conservatives have always opposed expanding rights to anyone who didn't currently have them at the time. There's very few things that we look back on and say the liberal objective was the wrong choice. The Eugenics movement is probably the biggest thing you can look back on and say liberals were wrong about.
Really? You apparently have little knowledge of history. You might want to read up on that again.

As for liberals having the moral high ground, they don't. Nor do conservatives. There is no moral high ground when your goal is to force others to agree with you. Liberals are just as hypocritical as conservatives, they have the same moral failings as conservatives, and they are no more or less "moral" than conservatives.
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Do you claim moral high ground, or do you surrender it to liberals?
Literally anyone who makes a moral claim is claiming the mora high ground.

Maybe someone out there has had a different experience, but I have yet to hear someone state a position and follow that up with claiming that their views are morally bankrupt.
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:44 PM
 
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"We don't hate Christians".

"We don't hate the military".

"Crimes against white people don't exist".

"I don't hate the rich. I'm pro-equality".


Why do these people think they claim the moral high ground, that they are the true "peacemakers". Who gave them that role?
Easy.

"Gay people will go to hell."

"We need small government, but let's pass a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage."
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Bc historically we've almost always been right! If you look at public policy, everything that's expanded access to rights has been a liberal cause. Conservatives have always opposed expanding rights to anyone who didn't currently have them at the time. There's very few things that we look back on and say the liberal objective was the wrong choice. The Eugenics movement is probably the biggest thing you can look back on and say liberals were wrong about.
Not so. Conservatives did a lot of rights expansion. Nixon, in particular, created a lot of the stuff the conservatives now oppose the most, but he was just one of many.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I think there's something to Thomas Sowell's point that a conservative will often call someone they disagree with stupid, and a liberal will often call someone they disagree with evil. I've been on the receiving end of both. :P
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Old 09-24-2017, 07:26 AM
 
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They don't. The left openly turned their backs openly on morality and ethics and integrity a long time ago. They have a tenuous grip on compassion but that's been slipping away fast.
The GOP still pretends to have the high ground but with the merging of the two parties into one indistinguishable anti America party, we're left with dwindling independents still above the fray.
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Old 09-24-2017, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Why do these people think they claim the moral high ground, that they are the true "peacemakers". Who gave them that role?


Perhaps because the right does the same thing.
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Old 09-24-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Lake Grove
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"We don't hate Christians".

"We don't hate the military".

"Crimes against white people don't exist".

"I don't hate the rich. I'm pro-equality".


Why do these people think they claim the moral high ground, that they are the true "peacemakers". Who gave them that role?
They are called "Self-Anointed" by Thomas Sowell

Another word for it is arrogance. They begin by assuming that anyone who doesn't feel the way they feel about everything is immediately dismissed as retarded and sub-human. That is why Bill Mahar prefers an evil dictator over our own president, from whom Mahar currently enjoys liberty and safety.
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Old 09-24-2017, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Liberals are self-congratulatory back patters. They want people to know how wonderful they are. Watch the South Park episode Smug Alert! (10th season, second episode).
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