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Old 10-04-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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Here ya go.

Twenty years ago, Australia passed strict laws to control what types of guns people could own. The country also required people to sell to the government any guns that were made illegal. Since then, Australia has seen zero mass shootings, a new study finds.

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.o...ings-australia
Yet number of people killed in mass killings by fire, beatings and vehicles skyrocketed, keeping the total number of deaths virtually the same.

Please, learn the facts.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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I can assure you that the Millions of Americans that own them will not comply, most already have them and are not giving them up or registering them, and that is that. Prohibitions do not work when the People disagree..................
And there are states that have tried. NY and CT did. Massive fail. All it did was waste taxpayer resources. Taken from an article on how the NYSP was finally forced to release registration numbers (they were denying FOIA requests): "While there is no firm count, observers have estimated there could have been hundreds of thousands or even a million assault-style weapons in New York when the law passed." "Since New York's SAFE Act gun control law went into effect in January 2013, a total of 23,847 people have applied to register their newly defined assault-style weapons with the State Police." And many of those who did register were law enforcement who had no choice, as the state already knew they owned the guns. LOL.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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There will be no gun control for at least a year and a half. And unless then the dems sweep the house and senate not for at least two years.
And if liberals keep this up, they'll never get another seat.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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Nowhere in the 2nd Amendment is the quantity per person specified, nor guaranteed. That opens the door for the Gov't to say, "Choose TWO of your current stash of arms to keep. We're taking the rest. Thus, we're still upholding your precious Amendment's right to keep and bear arms."
Nonsense. The 2nd Amendment is both clear and absolute - the right of the people to keep and bears arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

No qualifiers, no conditions, no nothing except a big fat "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" aimed at the federal government.

Limiting the number of firearms a person can own is infringing upon their right to keep and bear arms, and the government SHALL NOT do such a thing. It's not very complicated.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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How is the gubmit going to accomplish this? Most guns aren't registered or in any database. Older firearms have no serial number. Hilarious. 330 million hilarious.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Nonsense. The 2nd Amendment is both clear and absolute - the right of the people to keep and bears arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

No qualifiers, no conditions, no nothing except a big fat "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" aimed at the federal government.

Limiting the number of firearms a person can own is infringing upon their right to keep and bear arms, and the government SHALL NOT do such a thing. It's not very complicated.
Amen.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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So your defense is to throw a dart at other unrelated things that don't cause death. Right? Because that's what a gun is. A machine designed to cause the death of another life form. Yes, you can target practice.... but the primary invention was created for death. There's no point in owning a gun unless you plan on taking the life of another being (human, animal, etc) or to practice on paper images of other life forms.

Edit: No - I'm not against target practice and completely realize that shooting is a recreational and olympic sport. I have no issues with that. I'm saying that the weapon was not invented with those cases in mind.
Freedom of speech is responsible for far more violence than firearms. Firearms are a tool that can be used to commit violence. Speech, on the other hand, is used to incite violence. Arguably, speech is far more dangerous.

If you look at history, it is full of violence. People were killing other people long before firearms were invented. Removing firearms from the hands of citizens will not keep people from killing other people. Perhaps. rather than focusing on the tools used for violence we should focus on teaching people to value life.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Freedom of speech is responsible for far more violence than firearms. Firearms are a tool that can be used to commit violence. Speech, on the other hand, is used to incite violence. Arguably, speech is far more dangerous.

If you look at history, it is full of violence. People were killing other people long before firearms were invented. Removing firearms from the hands of citizens will not keep people from killing other people. Perhaps. rather than focusing on the tools used for violence we should focus on teaching people to value life.
Why not both? The people who commit these murders aren't likely to value much of anything at that point.
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Yet number of people killed in mass killings by fire, beatings and vehicles skyrocketed, keeping the total number of deaths virtually the same.

Please, learn the facts.
Yep, the fact remains that there haven't been any mass shootings in Australia since then. I'm not concerned about fire or beatings. I'm concerned about the gun violence problem in America.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why does it matter how many guns someone has? Having 50 guns is no different than having 2. You can only shoot one, maybe 2 (not accurately) at a time. Stop letting emotions take over critical thought.
If the big-govt leftists didn't keep letting emotions take over critical thought, they'd have nothing to say at all.

Gee, that would be terrible, wouldn't it.

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Old 10-04-2017, 12:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I'm not concerned about fire or beatings. I'm concerned about the gun violence problem in America.
Let me get this straight.

You don't care how many people are murdered?

You only care what tool was used to murder them?

You priorities are BADLY screwed up.


But we knew that.
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