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Old 10-03-2017, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Just remember that the Founding Fathers felt that the common citizen should have firearms equal to the military of the day and could be called upon to use them to defend themselves and their communities.
I heard a guy behind the counter at Cabela's say he had over 30 firearms.
What arms did the military in 1787 have? Muskets and cannons?....Do you think the private citizen should be allowed to posses arms today that are equivalent to today's military?
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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The founders couldn't foresee the future though....where we have weapons of mass destruction. We need to have some common sense here. I think we are taking advantage of what the purpose of the 2nd amendment meant during that time period.
To republicans death only counts during an abortion, otherwise the more the merry. 50 plus executed?? Oh well, the shooters rights to have those guns are what’s important.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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you come up with a gun control law that will prevent shootings like this, and protect the rights of law abiding citizens, and is constitutional, and i will back you 110%.
Here ya go.

Twenty years ago, Australia passed strict laws to control what types of guns people could own. The country also required people to sell to the government any guns that were made illegal. Since then, Australia has seen zero mass shootings, a new study finds.

https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.o...ings-australia
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:11 PM
 
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The next Dem president can pass gun restrictions. Thankfully we now have precedent for states to refuse to cooperate with federal law enforcement. We could have sanctuary gun states.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Lewes, Delaware
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The founders couldn't foresee the future though....where we have weapons of mass destruction. We need to have some common sense here. I think we are taking advantage of what the purpose of the 2nd amendment meant during that time period.
You’re talking about the same people who don’t believe in the 4th Amnendment, or the 1st unless it suits them.

Jump out squads?? Go ahead search whomever you want, hell Trump just pardoned that repub hero Sheriff that threw the US Constitution down the toilet.

I wonder who’ll they martyr next?? Casey Anthony, nevermind that’s already been done, by Fox News journalist and saint, Geraldo.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:30 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own 60 assault rifles like this guy did, but it is legal thanks to our ****ed up Constitution. So there's really nothing we can do about it.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:27 AM
 
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The Second Amendment should be abolished.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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Where in the 2nd Amendment is the quantity per person specified?
Nowhere in the 2nd Amendment is the quantity per person specified, nor guaranteed. That opens the door for the Gov't to say, "Choose TWO of your current stash of arms to keep. We're taking the rest. Thus, we're still upholding your precious Amendment's right to keep and bear arms."
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Nowhere in the 2nd Amendment is the quantity per person specified, nor guaranteed. That opens the door for the Gov't to say, "Choose TWO of your current stash of arms to keep. We're taking the rest. Thus, we're still upholding your precious Amendment's right to keep and bear arms."
Are you also okay with freedom of speech being limited to two instances? Or habeas corpus only applying to your first two arrests? Perhaps the limits on search and seizure should end with the third visit by law enforcement to your residence?
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The venerable Second Amendment to the US Constitution ensures the citizens' right to keep and bear arms.

But how many arms? Two? Six? Twenty? 48? 600?

If Congress decided to strip Americans of all arms but two, how would 2nd Am advocates justify their "right" to bear an unlimited amount of arms?

It is plural with no absolute. Why add more wording the 2nd Amendment than has already been added without amendment.

Congress can make no unconstitutional law. The 1934 Firearms Act is unconstitutional.
The law stating you must be 21 to purchase a firearm is unconstitutional
The law stating felons are not permitted to buy or own a firearm, is unconstitutional.
The law stating the mentally ill walking freely in society, cannot buy or own a firearm, is unconstitutional.
Conceal and open carry laws are unconstitutional.

At what point is a person, not a person? I'll tell you. When one is in bondage, incarcerated or dead.
Other than that, the RIGHT(rights are individual rights, not collective) of the people to keep(where ever the individual wants) & bear(carry at all times), shall not be infringed.

Your rights and my rights, as a sovereign individual, do not come from Congress, 9 people in robes, or any other person.
The text of the Bill of Rights was so simple, everyone could understand it. No words or definitions needed. The text defined it as much as they wanted it to be defined.
All the openness is called individual liberty, for the people to choose for themselves, individually.
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