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Old 10-08-2017, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The entire thing is about promoting abstinence. That's why they are so strongly against abortion, birth control, and sex education. They believe sex for reasons other than procreation is sin and that belief drives all their reproductive policy positions.
We know just how well total abstinence worked for priests.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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Does Medicare cover Viagra?
Medicare Part B covers pumps for erectile dysfunction under Durable Medical Equipment.
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Old 10-08-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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So American women are too poor to pay $50 or LESS a month for contraceptives and that is why everyone else needs to chip in and pay ?

What were they doing before 2012 then ?
She received welfare, medicaid, and food stamps for her and the baby of her unplanned pregnancy.

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Old 10-08-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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There is the slippery slope "moral depravity.“ If I was an insurance company investor I would be praying that you are successful in getting the industry to deny health care claims associated with voluntary behavior. You know most cancers are associated with things that we voluntarily put into our bodies. Let’s go for the full monty and get them to deny claims resulting from all the deadly sins that can be traced to biblical or religious doctrine.

That makes sense. If you voluntarily ingest carcinogens for recreational purposes, you should pay more for your insurance. I like that. And if you are a drunk, your premiums should be higher if you want coverage for rehab. That would be fair.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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It seems odd to be debating birth control in 2017. I thought we went through all this 50 years ago. MAGA.

It's silly they even require a prescription. They should be sold over the counter and cost $20/month like PPIs are sold.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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She received welfare, medicaid, and food stamps for her and the baby of her unplanned pregnancy.
Try again. Obamacare is for working people above the poverty line.

Medicaid is for people BELOW poverty line and medicaid has always provided FREE contraceptives and is not affected by this ruling.

Working women here which includes those making $50-$60-$150K a year.

This ruling has no affect on the welfare mamas.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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Try again. Obamacare is for working people above the poverty line.

Medicaid is for people BELOW poverty line and medicaid has always provided FREE contraceptives and is not affected by this ruling.

Working women here which includes those making $50-$60-$150K a year.

This ruling has no affect on the welfare mamas.
Until a single mom can no longer work due to having to stay home with the baby.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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Until a single mom can no longer work due to having to stay home with the baby.
Ah..move the goalposts I see.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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Ah..move the goalposts I see.
These are facts.

https://thenationalcampaign.org/reso...-birth-control
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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Here's some FACTS.

Unplanned pregnancies in 2010: 13.8%
Unplanned pregnancies in 2015: 13.4%

And that reflects the "free contraceptives" that Obama mandated in 2012.

So, no, I do not see an America full of single mothers on welfare because they couldn't afford $50 or less a month for a pack of pills.


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_st...i.htm#intended


And FWIW the largest group of women that get abortions are low income on medicaid.
Yes..even with FREE contraceptive this is the largest group that get abortions and manage to find money to pay for that.

If people truly care about themselves and their future they will do what is right and find a way to pay for it.
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