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Old 10-06-2017, 06:02 PM
 
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CORRECT

I have never seen so many politicians with no shame. In many countries, you step down/aside if you lose or cause your party to lose the majority. Heck the PM of Britain was not up for re-election, but stepped down when Brexit occurred. He did not have to, but did the honorable thing.
People like Pelosi, Reid & Hillary are only in it for themselves.

I'd also add that most people who directly lose like she did go quietly away. She is doing just the opposite, and it is very unseemly and shows a total lack of class and decorum.
YOU ARE CONFUSED Vector.

. In the USA is customary for the EX POTUS to slip into the background to help ease the change in power.
However the candidate who loses the election mostly stays out of the limelight for a few months to Give the new POTUS a chance to establish themselves. And after that goes back to work much more publicly and often speaks out.

Doubt me? McCain, Paul Ryan, Kerry , Palin, Gore.. and many others, those are just off the top of my head. they all ran and stayed.

So NO there is NO REASON to expect Hillary to just shut up and go away, it is NORMAL to remain in politics in the USA after running and losing . If Hillary chooses to stay active and vocal she would be no different than most other candidates of the last 40 years. some stay in the field, some leave, either one is normal.

Let me be CLEAR . It is completely normal in the USA for candidates to remain active for many years..

ref the UK....... they have a parliamentary system. It is NOT at all comparable because their leader requires the "confidence" of his or her party. A almost ANYTIME a vote of no confidence can be called. When a PM thinks they have a shot at consolidating power and the timing suits they call an election early. If they think they are about to be voted down, they step down for the PARTY and to avoid the humiliation. BUT they don't always leave completely, instead many stay and work to help the party. John Major stayed on the benches for about 4-5 years AFTER he stepped down from his PM position. And of course many of them go to the house of lords too.


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Old 10-06-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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I have a considerable amount of sympathy for Ms. Clinton. She is a person that has obsessed over knowing everything about everything for several decades. Her obsession led her to actually believe she knows everything about everything. She failed to realize that when you are the smartest person in the room you should never let the rest realize it because they get really irritated if you are right.


Her well developed arrogance and effective Russia support for the Trump campaign caused her to lose and a Russian agent to become President of the United States.
the know-it-all rule only applies to women, men are lauded as experts and highly skilled leaders. If Hillary was a dude she would have won with ease, and the Rs would never have run Trump against a strong male version of Hillary. Hillary's real crime is being a highly competent woman in a country that is stuck in the 1790s.
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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OMG. Help! I lost and I won't shut up!!

Vile hag.
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Old 10-06-2017, 06:50 PM
 
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This is what the speech would have sounded like (being Hillary):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO8VcKHgkWQ
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Old 10-06-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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the know-it-all rule only applies to women, men are lauded as experts and highly skilled leaders. If Hillary was a dude she would have won with ease, and the Rs would never have run Trump against a strong male version of Hillary. Hillary's real crime is being a highly competent woman in a country that is stuck in the 1790s.
If that’s what let’s you sleep at night, go ahead with your delusion.
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Old 10-08-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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the know-it-all rule only applies to women, men are lauded as experts and highly skilled leaders. If Hillary was a dude she would have won with ease, and the Rs would never have run Trump against a strong male version of Hillary. Hillary's real crime is being a highly competent woman in a country that is stuck in the 1790s.
How silly.

A male Hillary would not have beaten Trump.

Hillary did not lose because she is a woman. She lost because she didn't represent the values of the electorate in the states that went for Trump.
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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It's not an ad hominem if it's an observation.

You can say "Hillary keeps putting herself out there," but you still choose to respond. You don't have to. But you do. Why is that?


So which Democrat would be fair game...Biden?


We hasn't declared himself a candidate.


Bernie?


He endorsed Hillary.


Meanwhile, TRUMP-RUSSIA, TRUMP-PUTIN, STOLEN ELECTION, HILLARY SHOULD BE PRESIDENT!!!
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Old 10-08-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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Tubridy is an awful presenter and has destroyed the show. as to Hillary, you just can't give her up, can you waldo... she is like a drug to you hard right folk...


We rarely say a word about her or Barrack, but they can't stop, can they ? Yes, Hillary may scream into pillows, but you guys elected a man who is dumber than a pillow.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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How silly.

A male Hillary would not have beaten Trump.

Hillary did not lose because she is a woman. She lost because she didn't represent the values of the electorate in the states that went for Trump.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:32 PM
 
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We rarely say a word about her or Barrack, but they can't stop, can they ? Yes, Hillary may scream into pillows, but you guys elected a man who is dumber than a pillow.

We can spell Barack.

Funny to see poster misspell it, calling others dumb. It's just 6 letters.
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