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Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Obligated only if the workers do the work as agreed by both the employer and the employee in the contract.
Is my understanding not true?
I have always done my job. I was only ever fired from a job once. Any other job I lost was due to lay off, mainly when I worked in construction, which is cyclical
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Of course. I don't blame others for my own failures.
There is a difference between being a failure, and being paid less than your skills are worth due to a bad economy. But you equate the two as the same thing, a fallacy
Perhaps read the first part about the economy being in the toilet right after the recession? How was it my fault that the job market sucked hard for that year?
And btw, once the job market improved later that year, I did get a better job....
That one really stumps me. My kids were in college at the time, working summer internships in their fields of study for $25/hour (companies used those internships as a recruiting tool). How the hell were you not able to get a decent job? Liberal arts degree?
That one really stumps me. My kids were in college at the time, working summer internships in their fields of study for $25/hour (companies used those internships as a recruiting tool). How the hell were you not able to get a decent job? Liberal arts degree?
A lot of people had a hard time getting a job when graduating after the recession, myself included as did several of my friends. We came from great schools, too. I clearly wasn't unemployable... fast forward a few years and I started making six figures at 25. And yep liberal arts degree.
Perhaps read the first part about the economy being in the toilet right after the recession? How was it my fault that the job market sucked hard for that year?
And btw, once the job market improved later that year, I did get a better job....
Everyone is part of both good and bad economies. Nothing unnatural about that.
What are you even talking about? The companies obligation is to pay their worker.
People need money to live in this country, so by that logic, the company is indirectly obligated to provide for you, by paying you the money you need to acquire necessary goods and services
As long as they paid you for all time worked, they met their obligation. This is not "til death do us part". It is transactional, for a period of time.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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That one really stumps me. My kids were in college at the time, working summer internships in their fields of study for $25/hour (companies used those internships as a recruiting tool). How the hell were you not able to get a decent job? Liberal arts degree?
I'm a blue collar worker, so I didn't go to college. Plus Phoenix was hit hard during the recession, especially in the 08-10 period
I'm a blue collar worker, so I didn't go to college. Plus Phoenix was hit hard during the recession, especially in the 08-10 period
Skilled or unskilled? Any certifications?
And the Midwest was hit pretty hard, too. But companies were still paying top dollar ($25/hour is the equivalent of $50,000/year) for college student interns they hoped to hire after graduation.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Skilled or unskilled? Any certifications?
And the Midwest was hit pretty hard, too. But companies were still paying top dollar ($25/hour is the equivalent of $50,000/year) for college student interns they hoped to hire after graduation.
I was mainly working construction labor at that time, since the courier market had tanked, then that tanked as well. But then at the end of 09, freight picked up again
Then later got my class A CDL and started driving a semi-tractor
I was mainly working construction labor at that time, since the courier market had tanked, then that tanked as well. But then at the end of 09, freight picked up again
Then later got my class A CDL and started driving a semi-tractor
Construction labor is a tough gig. Local master carpenters went from earning $20/hour in the 1980s to currently earning only $12/hour. Why? The illegal alien infiltration has undercut their wages.
The illegals present stolen or forged IDs and SS#s, so there's not a damned thing anyone can do about it.
Remember when Puerto Rico had to void all the birth certificates they issued prior to 2010 because so many illegals were using them for ID and to obtain government benefits here in the 50 states? Were any of those purged? I doubt it.
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