Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
No 52 70.27%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island
8,840 posts, read 4,812,426 times
Reputation: 6479

Advertisements

I haven't bothered to run my numbers yet. I'd be against it even if I were getting a cut, which I doubt I will.

Corporations are the big winners here. Corporations flush with cash. You know how trump keeps tweeting about the stock market records? Yet the GOP thinks they need more.

Does anyone really believe these corporate cuts will do anything for the American worker? Please. Their C level executives will benefit handsomely though, so there's that. Wages have been stagnant for years and this will not change that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Boston
20,165 posts, read 9,060,402 times
Reputation: 18852
low earners don't itemize. This is a big break for them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
39,093 posts, read 51,289,449 times
Reputation: 28337
There is a survey out today that shows the Clinton and Bush tax HIKES were more popular than the Trump tax plan. Barely 1/3 of Americans are buying into the nonsense that this is nothing but a anti-populist, hand it to the rich scheme that is 180 degrees from what Trump promised on the stump.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: My House
34,941 posts, read 36,295,598 times
Reputation: 26573
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnOurWayHome View Post
I haven't bothered to run my numbers yet. I'd be against it even if I were getting a cut, which I doubt I will.

Corporations are the big winners here. Corporations flush with cash. You know how trump keeps tweeting about the stock market records? Yet the GOP thinks they need more.

Does anyone really believe these corporate cuts will do anything for the American worker? Please. Their C level executives will benefit handsomely though, so there's that. Wages have been stagnant for years and this will not change that.
I think lower corporate taxes should come with strings attached.

It'd be interesting to see how many corps would take the lower tax rate to pay their workers more money or stick with the higher rate and avoid giving people below the C-band more pay.
__________________
When in doubt, check it out: FAQ
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:48 AM
 
13,898 posts, read 6,457,569 times
Reputation: 6960
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
Use a calculator. The loss of exemptions means the standard deduction only goes up by 16%. The loss of many deductions for middle class Americans mean they will see immediate increases in tax liability. Almost all Americans will see increases when the individual provisions expire in just 7 years.
If anyone needs a tax break to afford their property and mortgage, they are living above their means and that is their own fault.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:49 AM
 
5,731 posts, read 2,198,716 times
Reputation: 3877
Quote:
Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
And families with 3 or more children get screwed
The $2k child tax credit will offset some of the deductions. Plus two kids is plenty these days, let's not encourage people to reproduce for tax purposes and getting welfare for kids they can't afford.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Boston
20,165 posts, read 9,060,402 times
Reputation: 18852
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
I think lower corporate taxes should come with strings attached.

It'd be interesting to see how many corps would take the lower tax rate to pay their workers more money or stick with the higher rate and avoid giving people below the C-band more pay.
corporations allegiance is to shareholders, need help?....... call social services
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
39,093 posts, read 51,289,449 times
Reputation: 28337
It will be the Democrats shouting "repeal and replace" if this turkey passes without significant changes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:54 AM
 
Location: My House
34,941 posts, read 36,295,598 times
Reputation: 26573
Quote:
Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
corporations allegiance is to shareholders, need help?....... call social services
Not my point.

My point is that these types of cuts are sold as "well, if we tax them less, they'll pay their workers more money."

And, that's a load of horse manure.

Of course they'll give it to the C-band and the shareholders. Which is why I said it made more sense to impose restrictions on tax breaks.

Make them appealing... you get a 10% tax cut and of that 10% back, you can do whatever you like with 5% of it, but the other 5% has to go to hiring more regular workers and cutting back on contractors or increasing the salaries of individual contributors who aren't in the C-band.

That sort of thing.
__________________
When in doubt, check it out: FAQ
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-29-2017, 10:59 AM
 
4,529 posts, read 5,142,277 times
Reputation: 4098
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
Do you pay AMT and does the elimination of it offset the increase? I haven't run our numbers yet, but I was wondering if this might be relatively neutral for us, though we would probably see a little increase because it'll bump our bracket overall.
No, we don't pay ATM. Our issue is the elimination of personal exemptions and the elimination of the state and local tax deductions. (property tax!)

This pill might be easier to swallow if it had an impact on reducing the deficit instead of adding to it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:13 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top