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LOL. So you're telling us that you would have adopted 300,000 babies?
Yeah, sorry, I thought I was having a discussion with an adult. My mistake.
By the way, Planned Parenthood does help women avoid unwanted pregnancy--two million of them per year. So you see, they actually prevent more abortions than they carry out.
That inconvenient fact just destroys your narrative, doesn't it?
I've escorted women past losers/crazies protesting outside women's health clinics so they could have a legal medical procedure.
Right. You are doing nothing to prevent abortions.
What are you doing so women never have to have them?
Nothing. Because all you care about is killing the baby.
You do NOT care about helping the woman, by ensuring that she NEVER has to make that decision. You'd rather she kill her baby, than teach her self esteem, how to have a relationship, make smart decisions, etc. You WANT her to have that abortion so you escort her in.
I don't think access to safe, legal abortion is a problem. I want people to make the best decisions for their bodies, yes.
Do you only understand that if I right in ALL CAPS?
Why aren't you involved before to help them understand how to not have one?
Because you only care about the right to kill the baby. you've made that very clear.
You only care AFTER she has made the decision to kill her baby. You offer her nothing but abortion. No counseling, no education, no other choices just abortion.
You only care about killing the baby. the woman may as well not even be there.
Maybe you'll understand without the caps? Or perhaps I should draw pictures.
Why aren't you involved before to help them understand how to not have one?
Because you only care about the right to kill the baby. you've made that very clear.
You only care AFTER she has made the decision to kill her baby. You offer her nothing but abortion. No counseling, no education, no other choices just abortion.
You only care about killing the baby. the woman may as well not even be there.
Maybe you'll understand without the caps? Or perhaps I should draw pictures.
Planned Parenthood offers counseling and education and birth control. In fact, 80% of its patients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy, and the large majority of them have incomes at or below 150% of the federal poverty level. So PP is doing the work where it is most needed. Think of how many more unintended pregnancies there would be without them.
But you want to take PP's funding away. So that tells us that you really don't care about the women at all. You just want to push your own agenda.
So you’re saying condoms, and BC only work 50% of the time? I can bet 99% of these unplanned pregnancies is due to not using contraception. But spin it anyway you want. It’s still irresponsible.
Half of abortions follow failed contraception. Every method of contraception, even vasectomies and tubal ligations, can fail.
How difficult is it to walk into the 7-11, walmar, kmart, cvs, walgreens, rite aid, grocery store, gas station, quicke mart, convenience store ... and buy condoms? Seriously, can you name a store that doesn't sell condoms?
You can buy birth control EVERYWHERE.
This is not an excuse any longer. Condoms are EVERYWHERE. And cheap.
If condoms were 100% effective there would be no other contraceptives.
In perfect use there will be two or three pregnancies per year per 100 couples using them. In real life, the number is closer to 10 to 15.
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Originally Posted by newtovenice
They perform 300,000+ abortions a year. Per their own statistics.
Abortions are NOT a *small percentage* of what they do. They don't even provide prenatal care, even though they claim to help *plan* parenthood.
Planning a pregnancy happens before the pregnancy is conceived. Do you deny that PP offers contraception services at all?
Some PP sites offer prenatal care. Most do not. Why do you feel that should be an essential service for PP?
Most women will do a home pregnancy test even before they come to PP and will already have made a decision to abort - or not. They want the pregnancy confirmed and PP can do that. PP will discuss all options, including adoption, with women who are unsure what choice to make.
Defunding PP in Texas was associated with increased abortion rates and teen pregnancy rates.
Y’all know the point I’m trying to make. That most women use abortion as a “form” of BC. I don’t think I have to be that articulate for you guys to understand. I’m sure you guys got it the first time, but go ahead be purposely obtuse.
Bottom line: women should have every right to kill their baby. I know the wording is awful but it is what it is.
No, MOST women don't use abortion as a form of BC.
When a woman has sex she understands that pregnancy is a consequence and bears the responsibility 50/50 with the man, who also understands that yes, sex leads to pregnancy. Can't have one without the other.
Don't want to get pregnant? Don't have sex. Pretty simple and is 100% effective. And if you can't control yourself well that's on YOU.
Since when does the man have 50% of the responsibility of carrying and giving birth? OR even 50% responsibility for her medical bill while pregnant? Or how about 50% of the risk to their health or possibility of death? Does the man have 50% of the morning sickness? 50% of the weight gain? 50% of the lost time at work? 50% of the lost time at school? 50% of the lost wages?
When he does then he can a 50% vote.
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I can bet 99% of these unplanned pregnancies is due to not using contraception. But spin it anyway you want. It’s still irresponsible.