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Old 12-17-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Interesting.

You have quite a moral compass there ...

just saying
Morals don't apply in a court of law, you do know that right?

 
Old 12-17-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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If it's not Illegal then it's not wrong. Your opinion (nor mine for that matter) really means nothing on that account.
Please, there are plenty of things that are wrong yet not illegal. This is new to me, a president excusing his behavior because it’s not illegal, really low standards.
 
Old 12-18-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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Please, there are plenty of things that are wrong yet not illegal. This is new to me, a president excusing his behavior because it’s not illegal, really low standards.
sortof like ...

 
Old 12-18-2017, 08:27 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Please, there are plenty of things that are wrong yet not illegal. This is new to me, a president excusing his behavior because it’s not illegal, really low standards.
What you miss is the OPINION part. "Wrong" minus the legal part is just an opinion which may or may not be held by more than just yourself or a group large or small and holds no more validity than those opposing opinions that others may hold...
 
Old 12-18-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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Morals don't apply in a court of law, you do know that right?
That does not make poor moral decisions not wrong.

You seem to be advocating a relativist system like they have in China. Not enough consumer protection laws so people are being poisoned by consumer products. Even though they have not violated any laws these business owners have a moral responsibility to their customer. When they allow their customers to be harmed or cheated they are doing something wrong.

We have had long experience with bad behavior in this country, after the fact it often results in a law. That is why we have so many laws and regulations. Experience has taught us that left to themselves people often do bad things to their fellows. When they do it for pleasure we call it evil, when they do it for money we call it business, when they do it for control we call it politics.
 
Old 12-18-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
That does not make poor moral decisions not wrong.

You seem to be advocating a relativist system like they have in China. Not enough consumer protection laws so people are being poisoned by consumer products. Even though they have not violated any laws these business owners have a moral responsibility to their customer. When they allow their customers to be harmed or cheated they are doing something wrong.

We have had long experience with bad behavior in this country, after the fact it often results in a law. That is why we have so many laws and regulations. Experience has taught us that left to themselves people often do bad things to their fellows. When they do it for pleasure we call it evil, when they do it for money we call it business, when they do it for control we call it politics.
I'll say it again SLOWLY this time.....
What you miss is the OPINION part. "Wrong" minus the legal part is just an opinion which may or may not be held by more than just yourself or a group large or small and holds no more validity than those opposing opinions that others may hold...
 
Old 12-18-2017, 06:38 PM
 
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I am in favor of amending the Constitution to allow states to bring suits against DC and investigations into DC officials so that we don't have to rely on the treacherous Congress and DOJ anymore.

Bypass the Deep State altogether. Once it has weakened power, its leaders can be rounded up and executed for treason.
 
Old 12-18-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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Morals don't apply in a court of law, you do know that right?
Especially if it's a "Progressive" court of law, where morals are looked down upon.......
 
Old 12-18-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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I am in favor of amending the Constitution to allow states to bring suits against DC and investigations into DC officials so that we don't have to rely on the treacherous Congress and DOJ anymore.

Bypass the Deep State altogether. Once it has weakened power, its leaders can be rounded up and executed for treason.
Who will do the rounding up? And by what criteria will they judge others?
 
Old 12-18-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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so, they can not have opinion?
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