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Old 12-21-2017, 09:16 AM
 
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overall..unemployment is 4%. That means there are jobs out there for people.
If you count the underemployed working part time but want full time and those not looking but could work and the number is way higher.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:16 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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overall..unemployment is 4%. That means there are jobs out there for people.

And we still haven't seen anything factual supporting the statement that increased efficiency results in overall job creation.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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If you count the underemployed working part time but want full time and those not looking but could work and the number is way higher.
And that number has always been way higher but when the media report unemployment rates that's the number they use.

If automation were truly taking away a massive amount of jobs the percentage would be going up each month and not down.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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And we still haven't seen anything factual supporting the statement that increased efficiency results in overall job creation.
And who reports what you are looking for ?
Has that ever been reported before or are you looking for a new set of numbers not created yet ?
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Tell us how tax cuts for the 'job creators' who then use the tax cuts to 'uncreate' jobs benefits the people?

We the people have been hearing these punctured mythologies for 3 or 4 decades now, still waiting for the 'trickle down' to benefit 99% of US.
The tax cuts provide companies with increased revenue to buy the technology that will replace paying jobs.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Some day, maybe within a few years we'll all be saying, "remember when there used to be cashiers in stores?".
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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There used to be full service gas stations. Progress took that away.
NJ attendants all pump gas. No self service.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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I doubt the prices will drop, Nike pays their workers in Asia pennies per hour yet their shoes are more expensive than ever
Ivanka`s Asian made junk doesn`t come cheap either.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And who reports what you are looking for ?
Has that ever been reported before or are you looking for a new set of numbers not created yet ?

I have no idea, I didn't make the unsupported by fact statement.

The one who did should know but has remained silent when asked for facts.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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Progress (technology) is supposed to take away work

The question is, should it also take away people's livelihoods.
Progress has always taken away peoples livelihoods and replaced those jobs with different ones usually less physically demanding ones. But this does feel different this time around. There won't be many jobs that only take a couple hours of training like lots of the retail and food service jobs. People will need a real skill.
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