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Old 12-24-2017, 04:44 AM
 
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Put on your thinking cap.

How much history is portrayed by a giant statue of Lee sitting on a horse?

If it was an accurate portrayal of history, the statue would be of Lee sitting at a table, signing the surrender papers.
Ooo thee great historian please tell us about general lee. No political north south stuff. Give us his story.
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Why continue to glorify such a horrible time in our history?
So we remember the past, and don't repeat it. Maybe the Feds should learn a bit about not overstepping their bounds. We are a collection of states, remember?
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:46 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Because to many American conservatives, it is not a lost cause.

"The South shall rise again," is not an empty slogan.
This "statue phase" you are going through only sets your side back decades. You don't seem to comprehend the resentment this cleansing of White symbols is causing. What's next in your cultural shakeup?

Your intentions are clear, and your going to wake up one day and wonder what happened.

This was all settled in the 19th century. Get over it!

This post-Obama surge of "makem pay" won't end well. Very unfortunate.

Just my observation.
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:46 AM
 
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Weird. I wouldn't. At all. Why do you think that would be constitutional?
Why do you think the federal government protecting Confederate monuments wouldn't be?
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Why do you think it wouldn't be?
You're the one proposing it. You tell me which clause in the Constitution this would fall under. Because I see nothing in the Constitution that would give the feds this power. At all.
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:52 AM
 
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I guess you never learned about all the battles he won, and how an under dog South kicked the North's ass for much of the war. Who lost more men in the Civil War, the North or the South?

If a person is inspired to look further into history because they saw a statue, or monument somewhere, that is a good thing.
Who lost their slaves?
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Old 12-24-2017, 04:58 AM
 
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You're the one proposing it. You tell me which clause in the Constitution this would fall under. Because I see nothing in the Constitution that would give the feds this power. At all.
I see nothing in the Constitution that denies them that power.

You were the one who brought up the Constitution.

So don't expect me to make your argument for you.
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Old 12-24-2017, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I see nothing in the Constitution that denies them that power.

You were the one who brought up the Constitution.

So don't expect me to make your argument for you.
I guarantee you that if you asked your congress critter to propose such a bill that the question would come up. If you're serious, you'd better have that answer.

But of course you're not serious, you're just trying to deflect from my question - if a town owns a statue, does it have the right to take it down or not? The answer is plain - it does have that right. And all this outraged ranting about heritage is just so much angry bed wetting.
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Old 12-24-2017, 05:11 AM
 
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I guarantee you that if you asked your congress critter to propose such a bill that the question would come up. If you're serious, you'd better have that answer.
My answer is that it is constitutional. There is no reason to think otherwise.

And you have not shown that there is any reason to think otherwise.

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...if a town owns a statue, does it have the right to take it down or not? The answer is plain - it does have that right.
Not if it's federally protected.

I'm quite sure that the city of Washington, D.C., does not have the right to take down the Washington Monument.

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And all this outraged ranting about heritage is just so much angry bed wetting.
The angry bed wetting is by people who can't let go of the past and want to re-fight the Civil War even though their side won.
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Old 12-24-2017, 05:15 AM
 
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What's your point?
Use your imagination, I am sure you will figure it out.
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