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View Poll Results: Is Donald Trump a racist?
Yes 259 55.34%
No 209 44.66%
Voters: 468. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-17-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
Um, Trump questioned Cruz's citizenship as well. That seems to undermine your narrative.
you already tried that exact point and i already addressed it:

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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
trump questioned cruz's eligibility since cruz was born in canada. he never questioned the validity of cruz's birth certificate or demanded a higher standard of proof ( "long-form").

trump demanded a higher standard of proof from obama than cruz. my point stands.
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
Trump never ran against Romney or opposed Romney so bringing up Romney makes no sense.
romney released his contemporary state issued birth certificate online, exactly the same as obama. the validity of romney's was never questioned ( by trump or the other birthers ) nor was a "long-form" demanded from him. that's how romney is relevant to the topic.

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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
The racism in this country was done by your party back in the day.
lifelong registered independent.

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Old 01-17-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
If that was the case, the country would have segregation policies.
The truth is....as middle class educated transplants moved to the south, it switched to GOP.
Do you have any support for that claim?
 
Old 01-17-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If I disagree with a teaching I can dislike it. If a person constantly teaches what I believe to be false I can dislike them for their character. This is Martin Luther Kings teaching.

I can dislike Obama for wanting to change America to a socialist country. This DOES NOT MAKE ME A RACIST!! I have a right is dislike anyone of any race , belief or creed because this is America. Now we have many who cry racist to everything if a person says this or that and the people are being mislead.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Do you have any support for that claim?
Can you cite any segregation policies pushed by GOP? You said white racists simply switched parties. Thus it follows that the GOP has a segregationist platform. WHy do you back up your assertion? You say the GOP is racist but you can't cite any racist policies that the GOP pushes?

Also, how do you explain SC GOP voters electing the black man Tim Scott as Senator, and the Indian female Nikki Haley as governor. That doesn't fit your Big Switch narrative.
 
Old 01-17-2018, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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In 1932, 98 percent of residents in SC voted for FDR. A very liberal politician.

Today, one of the most popular presidents with Democrat voters is FDR when polls are done. FDR is not popular with GOP voters in those surveys.

You would think if white racists switched to GOP, the GOP voters would be big FDR fans, and fans of fiscally liberal politicians. Essentially all of the white racist politicians back in the day like Benjamin Pitchfork Tillman were fiscally liberal.
 
Old 01-20-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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There is no real proof to that. Basically anybody could make it up and the media would eat it right up.
How do you know that almost all of the media are reporting lies about Trump and that only the ones owned by Murdoch aren't?
 
Old 01-20-2018, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
Can you cite any segregation policies pushed by GOP? You said white racists simply switched parties. Thus it follows that the GOP has a segregationist platform. WHy do you back up your assertion? You say the GOP is racist but you can't cite any racist policies that the GOP pushes?

Also, how do you explain SC GOP voters electing the black man Tim Scott as Senator, and the Indian female Nikki Haley as governor. That doesn't fit your Big Switch narrative.
I never said that all Republicans are racist, I gave examples of Trump's racism during the campaign. I don't have the time or energy to give you any more history lessons, try going back and reading my link in post 503
 
Old 01-20-2018, 04:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
only if trump began running in 1973

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/122708...racism-history

"1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations."
He didn't personally do those things. He wasn't an apartment manager.

Besides the FHA is just commie meddling based mostly on the theory, promoted by intellectually dishonest people or idiots, of "disparate outcomes". This is straight up Marxist Bullsheet.

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Originally Posted by biggunsmallbrains View Post
Thanks for defining false equivalency:

False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which two opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
Which two arguments did he make and equivocate? He just compared Obama's alleged racism to Trumps alleged racism. How is that different? Its the SAME argument...that BOTH have done the same thing. So no, it is NOT the definition of false equivalency. So your post is erroneous.

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Originally Posted by biggunsmallbrains View Post
Geez. You don’t need to know what I mean by racist. I don’t make definitions up to words like so many on the right. All you need to know about the definition of racist is any English dictionary.

Racist:
: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles (IE Trump).
b : a political or social system founded on racism
3 : racial prejudice or discrimination


The only thing missing in this definition is a picture of Trump waving. You may want to retake remedial English.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
An online dictionary that has been meddled with by Bolsheviks, no thank you. Get a REAL dictionary, created before it was hijacked by commie editors. Besides, the lefts entire platform and BLM and other such SJW groups are ALL based on the "assumption of racism". If BLM did not assume racism, it wouldn't even exist.

Here's a concrete example of how the Bolshevik Brigade meddles with definitions in order to carry out acts of linguistic sabotage and terrorism against their political enemies: http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/21/me...atism-sort-of/

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Old 01-20-2018, 05:01 PM
 
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He didn't personally do those things. He wasn't an apartment manager.
whether he did/didn't isn't relevant to the post i was responding to. the poster had falsely claimed that trump had not been accused of racism till he ran for POTUS. the article i linked to showed multiple accusations all predating trump announcing his candidacy.
 
Old 01-20-2018, 10:44 PM
 
Location: California
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He's not racist. He's just what some people now believe "racist" is because the definition has been warped to mean anything that doesn't treat POC's like infants who need coddling. I've seen some intelligent, well educated white people who seem to carry the idea that non white people JUST CAN'T for whatever reason be responsible or take action like a white person can. That's actually racist but people can't see it in themselves. And then we have non while people who just think everyone white is racist by virtue of being white. And the people who don't like Trump will see anything they want because they don't like Trump.


Added together you get poll results like this one. It's embarrassing.
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