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View Poll Results: Who is at fault for the shutdown?
House/Senate Majority Republicans 138 37.50%
Democrats 171 46.47%
Both 59 16.03%
Voters: 368. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-19-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Why should Donald Trump be any different than he has been his entire life. It has always been "someone elses fault", never his. He would throw his mother under the bus to make himself avoid any responsibility.

Anytime anything happed, especially in this last year, he always was very quick to point the finger at someone else. He was even ready to throw Jared and Don Jr under the bus for that meeting with the Russians, and he has turned on everyone who ever supported him.

The man is a pig, pure and simple. He is also a weak pig, because he can not take any criticism, or stand tall and say "the buck stops here".
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:35 PM
 
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I guess it is confirmed that illegal immigrants are far more important than providing services to US citizens and those in the country legally.

Both parties are to blame.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:36 PM
 
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Only if he gets involved which he hasn't done. He needs to lead otherwise why do we need him.
Trump hasn't been involved? Lol, you guys are desperate. The sad thing is the democrats are willing to put our nation at risk, and all for daca.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Irony won't occur until November, when The Schumer Shutdown decimates Democrats in the voting booths.

Oh, you mean like in NJ, Virginia, and Alabama ?
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:37 PM
 
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Why should Donald Trump be any different than he has been his entire life. It has always been "someone elses fault", never his. He would throw his mother under the bus to make himself avoid any responsibility.

Anytime anything happed, especially in this last year, he always was very quick to point the finger at someone else. He was even ready to throw Jared and Don Jr under the bus for that meeting with the Russians, and he has turned on everyone who ever supported him.

The man is a pig, pure and simple. He is also a weak pig, because he can not take any criticism, or stand tall and say "the buck stops here".
^This.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:37 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Irony won't occur until November, when The Schumer Shutdown decimates Democrats in the voting booths.
I kinda hope Chuckie decides to keep the government shutdown over this until the midterms.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Not having a wall was more important than having the DACA people taken care of.

Celebrate it if you want. It won't help DACA people or CHIP kids.
If Trump had his way, those young people would be loaded in a trailer truck, headed to the border as we speak.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:41 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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I’m terrified with the direction this country is headed in, under his watch. Since he was elected, everything seems like it’s a bad nightmare.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:42 PM
 
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uhm...this forum leans left

more dems and libs on CD than there are repubs and cons
Only seems that way (sorta, not really) because anyone who expresses any sentiment that is not in line with the Trump Train is labeled liberal and/or Democrat, regardless of actual leaning, party or anything else back in reality.
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Denver/Atlanta
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Of course they do. That’s what sheep do.
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