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View Poll Results: Who is at fault for the shutdown?
House/Senate Majority Republicans 138 37.50%
Democrats 171 46.47%
Both 59 16.03%
Voters: 368. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-22-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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Strange that those who are constantly screaming ILLEGAL seems perfectly fine with Trump handing classified intel to the Russians, with his campaign chairman, son and son-in-law meeting with Russians to trade sanctions for illegal help with the election, with Russian money laundering, with having foreign agents in the WH, ....

The list goes on. A corrupt president in the white house robbing us blind and all they can yammer about is people brought here as children who will be working and paying taxes instead of stealing from us and conspiring with the foreign governments.

Makes me wonder if these are actually Americans posting.
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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Like I said, it requires a degree of intellectual honesty, which you seem to be lacking. It takes 60 votes to get over the filibuster in the Senate. There are 51 GOP Senators. Math says that's a shortfall of 9 votes for those playing the home version of our game.

Schumer shut it down to get what he wants without compromise. He, and Democrats own this.
You do realize that even if the republicans got 9 democrats to switch over, it still would have failed due to 4 republicans who voted against it. Also, note that 5 democrats voted for. So, this shutdown isn't on either party, it is a failure on both parties.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I copied it directly as it was written from the top of the article. Which, if you had bothered to read it, you would have known.
So that's why you're screaming?
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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So that's why you're screaming?
Ask The Hill why they're screaming. They must have really wanted everyone to know it wasn't their opinion.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Over???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.8314138fe189

Senate Democrats are expected to join with Republicans Monday to approve a short-term spending bill to fund the government through Feb. 8, according to several Senate Democrats. House GOP leaders signaled they would back the measure, likely as soon as later Monday.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Schumer is now saying he'll vote to reopen the government today.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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Did you read this article?

https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/...-daca-program/

LifeZette is a conservative American news, opinion, and commentary website. It was founded in 2015 by political commentator Laura Ingraham and businessman Peter Anthony.The site features news and commentary on a range of topics such as politics, lifestyle and culture using the slogan "Life. Explained."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LifeZette


USCIS is U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service.

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I'm sorry but anything coming out of CIS or FAIRUS is generally BS, both are run by the same guy, John Tanton who spends his time pumping out racist screeds.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Poll: Nearly 9 in 10 want DACA recipients to stay in US
Poll: Nearly 9 in 10 want DACA recipients to stay in US | TheHill

Poll: Majority opposes deporting Dreamers
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...reamers-242343

Two-thirds of Trump supporters want Dreamers to stay in U.S.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...o-stay-in-u-s/
15% of Americans are Lib/Socialists/Communists &/or Democrats & want the "Dreamers to have a pathway" no matter what (it's their relatives or their future voting bloc).

15% of Americans are Libertarians/Trump Supporters &/or working class or middle class people who are Anti Any Illegal Alien becoming a Citizen (unless they went thru the proper channels).

That leaves 70% in the middle (most whom are NOT on this board, & most of whom work for a living and don't dwell on political issues 24/7).

1. Ask them "Do you believe in a Pathway to Citizenship for Dreamers"? & 90% say yes.

2. Ask them "Do you believe in a Pathway to Citizenship for Dreamers" if your Taxes go up (since over 40% of all Dreamers or their illegal Parents are on some type of Welfare & it's costing hard working Americans over 150 Billion Dollars per year & it will continue to cost us 150 Billion Dollars per year until the number of Dreamers go down.) Suddenly it's Under 50/50.

3. Ask them "Do you believe in a Pathway to Citizenship for Dreamers" if you Taxes go up (since over 40% of all Dreamers or their illegal Parents are on some type of Welfare & it's costing hard working Americans over 150 Billion Dollars per year & it will continue to cost us 150 Billion Dollars per year until the number of Dreamers go down.)

Oh....& Mr. Working Class or Middle Class or Upper Middle Class American Citizen man or woman.....that College Slot (&/or College Grant) that would have gone to your kid, you don't get anymore. It goes to the Dreamer/Illegal Alien (or her kid) instead.

Also, once the Dreamers are citizens, they can bring Relatives (via Chain Migration) which can double that 150 Billion Dollars per year number. & The Dreamers are less likely to graduate HS, or earn a Degree....& are more likely to commit a crime and more likely to belong to a Gang.

Also, as our Economy becomes more automated (& robotic), & it will..... their Jobs will be the first ones eliminated (So that 300 Billion Dollars per year becomes 600 Billion Dollars per year).

& When you retire, you'll get $1000 less per month in Social Security, because we need to pay for the Dreamer's Parents Social Security - Hey....they paid in for 2 years.....it's only fair.


Oops.....now we are down to 90% against Dreamers and 10% for.


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Old 01-22-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Over???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.8314138fe189

Senate Democrats are expected to join with Republicans Monday to approve a short-term spending bill to fund the government through Feb. 8, according to several Senate Democrats. House GOP leaders signaled they would back the measure, likely as soon as later Monday.
So who won???
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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So who won???
Hopefully, the American people.

But somehow I doubt it.
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