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Old 05-03-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
Guiliani is on Fox and Friends right now--
Totally screwing up

The man is nuts
And he has given Avenatti and Daniels more fodder for defamation since he is claiming Trump/Cohen's actions were in defense of blackmail by Daniels
To protect against her LIE that they had sex

He said Trump didn't know about the slush money until 10 days ago

So how could he have condoned the previous payments to Cohen???

They --- Trump and Cohen---are just too stupid to be allowed near any public media sources

Guiliani is still trying to claim Trump paid for his campaign---so WRONG--

Guiliani just is totally inept...
Now saying Trump paid the money (that he didn't know about paying ) to save his marriage...
OMG.

Who knew Fox & Friends would be better than a Grand Jury?

 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by loves2read View Post
Guiliani is on Fox and Friends right now--
Totally screwing up

The man is nuts
And he has given Avenatti and Daniels more fodder for defamation since he is claiming Trump/Cohen's actions were in defense of blackmail by Daniels
To protect against her LIE that they had sex

He said Trump didn't know about the slush money until 10 days ago

So how could he have condoned the previous payments to Cohen???

They --- Trump and Cohen---are just too stupid to be allowed near any public media sources

Guiliani is still trying to claim Trump paid for his campaign---so WRONG--

Guiliani just is totally inept...
Now saying Trump paid the money (that he didn't know about paying ) to save his marriage...
Good lord, this feels like we're in a dream. How could anyone be so stupid?!

If Guliani is the type of person that Trump wants to surround himself with, we are doomed.

Poor Trump supporters, their arguments and deflections are running out of steam. We are seeing more and more how incompetent Trump and those around him are.

Michael Cohen and Rudy Guliani are both dumbasses.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Originally Posted by NeutralParty View Post
Good lord, this feels like we're in a dream. How could anyone be so stupid?!

If Guliani is the type of person that Trump wants to surround himself with, we are doomed.

Poor Trump supporters, their arguments and deflections are running out of steam. We are seeing more and more how incompetent Trump and those around him are.

Michael Cohen and Rudy Guliani are both dumbasses.
With a friend like Rudy who needs enemies?
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by NeutralParty View Post
Good lord, this feels like we're in a dream. How could anyone be so stupid?!

If Guliani is the type of person that Trump wants to surround himself with, we are doomed.

Poor Trump supporters, their arguments and deflections are running out of steam. We are seeing more and more how incompetent Trump and those around him are.

Michael Cohen and Rudy Guliani are both dumbasses.
Is Giuliani a Mueller plant???? LOL
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
This is all damage control. Originally, Trump thought he could lie his way out of the payoff and avoid any political fallout. The fact that he is changing his story completely suggests to me that he is less worried about political fallout and more worried about something else at this point.
In the larger perspective, Trump hates the job, he's terrible at it and he has to know. Why would he care about political fall-out at all?
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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With a friend like Rudy who needs enemies?

Good question. It's almost like Guliani is a plant.

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Is Giuliani a Mueller plant???? LOL
Yep. He's been planted by the Deep State. Guliani is a manchurian candidate that's been switched to "on" by Hillary and Obama.

Follow the money, it all leads back to Uranium One and Kenya!
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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Yep. Payments were on the up and up. Nothing illegal, so they say.

So that means they should have no problem providing the paper trail for the payments, since nothing illegal happened. Right, Trumpers?
Let's check to see how these personal payments were classified on Trump's Federal tax returns for 2016.

 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Well, what do you know.

And Kellyanne's own husband no less.

What is the world coming to?
everyone is distancing themselves... or just said screw it, lets try a different way and put it all out there.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by NeutralParty View Post
Good lord, this feels like we're in a dream. How could anyone be so stupid?!

If Guliani is the type of person that Trump wants to surround himself with, we are doomed.

Poor Trump supporters, their arguments and deflections are running out of steam. We are seeing more and more how incompetent Trump and those around him are.

Michael Cohen and Rudy Guliani are both dumbasses.
I don't think Cohen or Giuliani are dumbasses.

Cohen was a fixer, and he was competent at what he did when Trump was just a businessman. While some of what he did may have violated the law, his actions didn't receive intense scrutiny, and served the purpose. I think the convoluted way of getting payment to Daniels was his attempt at evading potential scrutiny; he wasn't used to dealing with the kind of scrutiny that Presidential dealings get, and didn't realize that all this denial and elaborate financial schemes would be like a neon sign saying, "dig here". The Trump campaign didn't really understand the laws and rules governing Presidential campaigns, either. They operated it like Trump has operated his business empire.

Giuliani truly was a brilliant prosecutor and a sharp legal mind. He's aging, but also, I think the President presses his legal team to do things they shouldn't do. They know they shouldn't, but he's the boss, and I think he makes that very clear to everybody, that he's the boss. So even when his judgment calls aren't the best, people cater to him. Until they reach the point they can't anymore. Hence, the ever-evolving legal team.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Well, what do you know.

And Kellyanne's own husband no less.

What is the world coming to?
Must be really interesting to live in Kellyanne's house.
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