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Obama also ran on everyone being covered....what happened?
I don't recall Obama saying all Americans would be covered. I recall him saying he would offer plans cheaper than what was out there, and he did. Fact is, for most, getting plans via the exchange was cheaper than getting it elsewhere.
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BTW, the premiums in Alabama went up over 230% prior to trump anything?
They were not going up that fast prior to the ACA....
Alabama didn't expand medicaid coverage through the ACA, in protest of Obama. States that did, saw insurance not cost as much. Blame alabama, not Obama. The information is out there for all to see, do a little research, and you'll see why insurance cost so much in Alabama.
Exactly there is no quick fix -- but we were soldl there was by Trump during his campaign.
Come on now -- Trump thought it was an easy fix.
It isn't. It's complicated and he admittedly found that out.
Even all of us knew it was complicated -- come on now.....
Are you actually telling me that a politician said something that may have been a little hyperbolic while on the campaign trail? NO WAY!
Lest we forget, Obama promised that our premiums would drop by 1/3, and the average family would be saving something like $2500. That wasn't a vague promise for a "quick fix" or some such policy agenda. It also wasn't campaign hyperbole - he was president at the time. That was a direct statement with a specific dollar figure attached to it, and I personally believe it was a straight up lie, although all I can claim as fact is that he was about as wrong about the effects of the law as a person could have possibly been.
It is so great not to be forced to have health insurance. I don't know about you, but I really value my right to go bankrupt if I get seriously ill!
Interesting. My wife and I did not participate in the ACA , we couldn't afford the premiums so we called around to some insurance companies, and ended up self insuring with Blue Cross. Why can't you and many others do the same ?
Sidenote, just before the end of the year we contacted BC to see about lowering our premiums and they mentioned after the first of the year everything is going up. So, not sure how this would be Trumps fault but whatever. We did end up making some changes that lowered the premium by $100 a month, so now we are at $670.
If you replace the word "Trump" with "Obama," you have an equally accurate statement. The truth is, Obama broke the healthcare system. Fixing it won't be easy, and it won't be painless - but it still needs to be fixed.
The healthcare system was broken long before Obama. I'm not a fan of the ACA, but it did bring several good things to the table.
The healthcare system was broken long before Obama. I'm not a fan of the ACA, but it did bring several good things to the table.
For the average American, the health insurance system worked perfectly well before Obama. Was it perfect? No, but most didn't have issues. What Obama did gutted the health insurance system and replaced it with a system where the average American had to pay more money for less coverage and higher out of pocket costs. Did it have some good things? Sure, the removal of pre-existing conditions clauses was nice. But overall, for a system that promised to "fix" healthcare, save people money, and cover everyone it was a dismal failure.
Will the Republicans do better? Probably not. We still have a political system that gives far too much wait to lobbyists and does a ****-poor job of policing our representatives for a truly good system to be brought to the table. On the other hand, I doubt that they can do much worse.
Well, back in the real world, rate of increases were slowing down. Let that sink in, without the ACA, things would probably be worse today....and reports are already coming in that things will get worse with Trumps killing of ACA.
The advent of expensive plans with high deductibles started creeping in america well before Obama. It was the path we were on. Your costs were not due to the ACA, they would have gone up regardless.
Prove it.
You can't create minimum coverage standards including coverage for preexisting conditions and expect insurance companies not to raise prices.
That notion is absurd on it's face.
The mandate didn't offset the increased costs to insurance companies and a lot of people elected to pay the penalty instead.
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30% increase? 3 million lose their insurance?
What?
Trump said more people we're going to be covered at a more affordable cost. What happened to that plan?
Now you sound like the Republicans when the ACA was passed. You told them to wait and see - so guess what wait and see! I'm betting that insurance does become more affordable because other legislation will be passed to open buying plans across state lines ect making for a real market.
Looks like he has a great healthcare plan. Actually the interesting thing thats pointed out is that this will impact those making 4X the poverty limit, as the subsidies will shelter the poorer folks.
2019 will be the first time we see the impacts of the war on the ACA. Will it really be 30% as the study estimates? Barring some changes I can see that occurring.
All I see is someone from California giving his opinion.
I know that trump supporters are allergic to facts, so what I link to won't matter. You'll probably just dismiss it as fake news.
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