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Old 01-28-2018, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Japan
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It's just an interview - what about it signed the alarms?
True, in this instance it's mostly jut a matter of them choosing Fox as their subject, giving him a platform, so not the best example of bias.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Let's try this again once the wall is built that's the end of the job for those who built it. Patrols KEEP PEOPLE working.
And maintenance workers as well.

Built by day, blown up at night.

The US would spend more protecting the wall from being destroyed than it would cost to build it.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Japan
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The US would spend more protecting the wall from being destroyed than it would cost to build it.
Over the entire life of the wall maybe... with two math degrees you should be able to show us how you calculated that.
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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He certainly isn't stupid though, and has no problem going head to head with Trump, the bully. Trump ran on a wall being built and paid for by Mexico. And his supporters voted for him because of that. Now he's saying we have to pay for it. Why don't his supporters have a problem with this.
"Trump the bully?" A silly claim. Standing up for protecting our border is not being a "bully."
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Over the entire life of the wall maybe... with two math degrees you should be able to show us how you calculated that.
How are you going to stop it from being blown up or tunneled under? Especially at night.
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Japan
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How are you going to stop it from being blown up or tunneled under? Especially at night.
Hopefully a new wall would have cameras and alarms to discourage people from messing with it and alert patrols. And it should include the kind of tunnel sensor technology already being used in Israel. Even if it doesn't, having to dig a tunnel, complete it, and bring people or contraband through undetected is an order of magnitude more difficult than just walking over a border with no physical barrier. The idea is to discourage and prevent large numbers of people from crossing, not to stop every single infiltrator.
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:36 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Hopefully a new wall would have cameras and alarms to discourage people from messing with it and alert patrols. And it should include the kind of tunnel sensor technology already being used in Israel. Even if it doesn't, having to dig a tunnel, complete it, and bring people or contraband through undetected is an order of magnitude more difficult than just walking over a border with no physical barrier. The idea is to discourage and prevent large numbers of people from crossing, not to stop every single infiltrator.
How would you power these cameras, alarms, sensor technology? For a couple thousand miles.
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Former Mexican President To Trump: 'If You Want To Build A Wall, Waste Your Money'


The U.S. isn't the only country with a president who takes shots at critics on Twitter. Vicente Fox, who made history in Mexico in 2000 when he became the first president to break 71 years of one party rule, is taking aim at President Trump.
He's frequently criticized the Trump Administration on Twitter and on air.


Fox, who served as president of Mexico for
six years until 2006, also wrote a book that in part looks at Trump and the U.S.'s relationship with Mexico. It's called Let's Move On: Beyond Fear & False Prophets. The book highlights the North American Free Trade Agreement between the U.S., Mexico and Canada. Trump has said his administration is renegotiating the terms of NAFTA. Fox argues that, "It's key and crucial that we keep ourselves united, and that we keep being the largest consumer market in the world."
Fox spoke with NPR's Lulu Garcia-Navarro about the book, his views on the Trump Administration and what he hopes for the relationship between the U.S. and Mexico.




https://www.npr.org/2018/01/28/58139...false-prophets
For the record, I'm neutral on the wall because I've heard people claim that it would pay for itself in a short time. If I were making the decision on wall or no wall, I would want to see a cost/benefit analysis.


I saw Vicente on Fox, I got nothing against him, seems like an okay guy.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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The wall isn't going to do a damn thing. Want to REALLY help secure the borders AND create jobs? Train and hire U.S citizens! Seeing that Trump just wants his all and nothing else matters this is just another thing that won't happen!
I'm with you. Train US Citizens? Check. Hire US Citizens? Check.
The wall helps us accomplish both of these.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Hopefully a new wall would have cameras and alarms to discourage people from messing with it and alert patrols. And it should include the kind of tunnel sensor technology already being used in Israel. Even if it doesn't, having to dig a tunnel, complete it, and bring people or contraband through undetected is an order of magnitude more difficult than just walking over a border with no physical barrier. The idea is to discourage and prevent large numbers of people from crossing, not to stop every single infiltrator.
Winner.
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