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Old 02-03-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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I'm NOT trolling, Ibginni! I wish you would stop deleting my posts!
But you are screaming at people to WAKE UP and you have have no real input on this discussion except to call everyone crazy. Either contribute to the discussion with rational discussion and facts and quit shouting your conspiracy rhetoric. You're being annoying.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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Nunes contends that the FBI and the justice system lacks integrity and are politically biased.

Who believes that?
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Two big lies being perpetuated about The Memo by the left from the top down... It's a dud, and the sky is falling.

We have congressmen and congresswomen whom are well qualified to decide for themselves that the release of the memo was not a release of "Intelligence", but a release of information... So let's not get our panties in a wad.

For example, some of these congressmen are themselves former "Intelligence" agents, aka CIA officers, etc.

There was nothing in this memo that will affect national security.

Your Media Lies To You!

In fact, there's NOTHING in this memo that hasn't already been leaked to the press.

This is why some of it's opponents ( you know? The crooks like James Comey) are sitting back and screaming, This information is a dud!

Well no it's not, Thankyouverymuch. It gives the world specific evidence of what we've suspected all along.

The Comey Lies To You!

This Release is about Congressmen exercising its informing function to shed light on the process and provide transparency.

This is one of the many things that separates this country from many other Schiffhole countries out there.

God Bless America...

The Memo alleges FBI abused its surveillance powers. We know this fact.

The question you should answer for yourselves is, For what purpose.

Before y'all try to Echo-Chamber the falsity that this Memo is a dud and will mean nothing, have patience.

Sit back and watch more heads roll.

For example, who wants to lay odds on the tenure of Rod Rosenstein?

This is not a "one-off" problem. It's a cronic problem.
The stupid liberals are too stupid to realize that there is no Trump/Russia collusion....it was all a Hillary manufactured fantasy to allow the FBI to spy on Trump. They are encouraging the Republicans to return the favor next time.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:50 AM
 
Location: The 719
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No it wasn't, no matter how many of you demoralized losers post such!
Either settle down or see you down the road.

Don't worry about your message. The Truth needs no explanation. It stands on it's own, it's patient and it's bright enough to see without embellishments such as font sizes, pearly colors and such.

Just give us a few facts here and there to digest.

The liberals will ignore it no matter what you say... Until CNN gets around to mentioning it on page 14.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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What if it came out that a Republican-funded opposition research dossier against presidential candidate Barack Obama was used to obtain a secret FISA warrant to put Obamaā€™s aides under surveillance and take him down?
This hasn't happened. Part of the information in the Steele dossier had info on Carter Page. That info was corroborated and found to be true. That dossier information was ONE PIECE of many that was used to obtain a FISA warrant. That warrant was obtained on Carter Page and not Donald Trump. And the warrant was obtained after Carter Page left the Trump team. Since that is the timeline, Trump would not be included in any surveillence related to Page. Could have been a different story if Page was still on the team.

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And what if the federal judge who granted the warrant wasnā€™t told that the partisan oppo-research was the basis of the surveillance warrant?
The federal judge (judges) was told that part of the evidence to wiretap came from a source who was paid by a "political entity" to gather such information but the information, upon further checking, was found to be true.

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Or, what if senior FBI officials running the investigation of Obama had expressed loathing for the candidate and his voters?
If you were to read the email and text of all FBI employees (as well as all federal employees), I would bet you my entire year's salary that you would find information that said employees hated Obama. I know they did. I know he had Secret Service protection that did not vote for him and were staunch republicans.

You need to get out of your right-wing media vacuum because your beliefs about things are not evolving with the situation now that the memo has come out.

You are spewing EXACTLY what Devin Nunes wants you to believe.

Devin--job well done. You certainly know the intellect of your followers.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The memo is a dud and is much too vague to prove anything. The president sounds like an a side show hawker transparently attempting to push a biased agenda to stop Mueller. This entire fiasco of a memo is a blatant swipe at democracy and the tactics of Trump, Nunes & Co. are looking like something a third world strongman would use.

"...But the memo also doesn't say several things. It doesn't accuse anyone at the Department of Justice or the FBI of violating the law. It doesn't claim that the entire dossier is false—just that the FISA warrant application to surveil Carter Page relied on portions of it. And most importantly, the memo doesn't say whether law enforcement corroborated the Steele dossier claims that appeared in that warrant..."


https://www.wired.com/story/devin-nu...-surveillance/
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Four federal judges, nominated by Republicans, approved four extensions of surveillance knowing that the dossier was paid for by a political entity. NYT and the liberal WSJ have it too.
That's because four federal judges as well as anyone else who gives it two seconds of thought know that it doesn't make any difference where information comes from. If it warrants looking into, it should be investigated.

From what I've read, there were hundreds of pages and forty some pieces of evidence backing up the FISA warrants.

Claiming that Clinton campaign paid for the dossier is a thin thread to hang your hopes on.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Nunes contends that the FBI and the justice system lacks integrity and are politically biased.

Who believes that?
No, Nunes contends that the LEADERSHIP of the FBI and DOJ have those issues. Let's at least be clear and honest about who/what you're talking about.
Nobody has issues with the FBI rank and file.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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That's because four federal judges as well as anyone else who gives it two seconds of thought know that it doesn't make any difference where information comes from. If it warrants looking into, it should be investigated.

From what I've read, there were hundreds of pages and forty some pieces of evidence backing up the FISA warrants.

Claiming that Clinton campaign paid for the dossier is a thin thread to hang your hopes on.
These people who are listening to Alex Jones or other such sites believe only this:

The FISA warrant was issued solely on the dossier. The judge was bamboozled and not told that the dossier was funded by opposition research, and that somehow President Trump was "wiretapped."

That's eat. There's not critical thinking beyond that, even with the memo in their hands.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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The memo is a dud and is much too vague to prove anything. The president sounds like an a side show hawker transparently attempting to push a biased agenda to stop Mueller. This entire fiasco of a memo is a blatant swipe at democracy and the tactics of Trump, Nunes & Co. are looking like something a third world strongman would use.

"...But the memo also doesn't say several things. It doesn't accuse anyone at the Department of Justice or the FBI of violating the law. It doesn't claim that the entire dossier is falseā€”just that the FISA warrant application to surveil Carter Page relied on portions of it. And most importantly, the memo doesn't say whether law enforcement corroborated the Steele dossier claims that appeared in that warrant..."


https://www.wired.com/story/devin-nu...-surveillance/
You forgot to call it "cherrypicked"...
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